Fun fact: Torx screwdrivers are compatible with Torx Plus screws, but Trox Plus screwdrivers are only compatible with Torx screws that are one size larger
Reject threaded fasteners, return to nail and rivet.
this post was submitted on 13 Jul 2024
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Ah, torx plus, used on Chevy bellhousings. Real easy to strip with a regular torx driver.
The EU should fine companies for introducing new standards that break old standards. Or any shit standards like Toslink: https://lemmy.world/comment/10671314 . Standardization organizations shouldn't be sleeping through all this shit.
I don't use screw drivers enough to know what these are for. But from a programmer's standpoint, punishing people to deviate away from standard may cause more harm than good, no?
Suppose it's easier/cheaper/more effective to deviate a bit from standard, why should I be punished to do things a bit differently?
One issue is that it can be leveraged to maintain a monopoly. Microsoft famously made a bunch of small modifications to the HTML standard, so that web sites that wanted to work with MS Internet Explorer had to write custom versions to be compatible. But because so many people just used IE because it was bundled with Windows, those "extensions" started to become their own standard, so that then other browsers had to adopt MS's idiosyncrasies in order to be compatible with the sites, which in turn harmed standardization itself. They even had a term for this technique: "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish." It nearly worked for them until Google pushed them out with Chrome. Microsoft tried to do the same thing again with Java until the government got involved.
It's complicated, certainly, but there are legitimate cases where "just a little tweak" can be quite a big problem for a standard.
Thanks for the explanation.
Think about all the micro USB, lightning cables, USB cables etc. In programming it's different, but for this stuff it's a waste of money and actual resources.
I never realised how stupid it is that toslink can only plug in 1 way
Why is tamper-resistant torx plus the only one that's 5-pronged?
To make it even less likely that someone will be able to get it unscrewed without having the right set.
They’re not perfect, obviously, but they do harden a target more than regular Torx.
I use tamper resistant screws to keep an AirTag on my eBike to discourage its removal. Obviously a determined thief could remove it, but lots of stolen bikes get abandoned anyway. My hope is that if it gets stolen it gets abandoned and I can find it then.
Okay, then a slightly different question: why aren't tamper-resistant torx (non-plus) 5-prong?
because the goal of tamper resistance is to make it harder to unscrew without apple's approval
Apple?
my brother in christ have you seen phillips head and posi drive?
Life sucks. You can't win.
Or Phillips and JIS?
JIS isn't real
Working on an 86 RV and hating posi drive. I swear they were designed to strip.
Also no mention of Spider drive that everyone insists is a torx
probably because nobody buys anything other than torx, considering it's a brand name, it's not like they're going to just do the funny and mislabel a screw. Phillips heads are so common it's a lot easier to mistake them.
Though if you're in the field and you run across one i could see it being annoying.
Torx is the 🐐! Phillips are just terrible, I prefer slotted over Phillips. You can slip out quite easily with slotted but if you are in there they work ok.
Phillips are horrible. You need to have 20 different ones that look all the same and you have to try them multiple times to figure out which slip the least. The post and people with no clue make it seem like they make new torx every day to fuck with people. If you have a 15, 20 and 25 torx bit you can use most torx screws out there. If you work on small applications you need a 10 and below. If you use massive screws you ned a 30 and a 40.
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And how many of these are needed by the dictates of their use VS how many are needed to restrict your access?
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