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She should be removed from parliament, now that the investigation has concluded and she was found to be corrupt....get rid of her.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If she refuses to resign, it will be interesting to see if greens use the "waka jumping" rules against her.

They were against them at the time, as they felt they could be used to silence dissent in the party ranks, so to use them would be an embarassing change of direction for them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I personally wouldn't see it as hypocritical. Not sure why it would be embarrassing.

Using this to get rid of a corrupt person is not the same as using it to silence dissent.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Seems weird to kick out a politician for being corrupt. That would mean at least two thirds should be gone. Certainly everybody in NACT for sure.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

While I get what you are trying to say.

There is a big difference between suspected corruption and proven corruption.

There are serious conversations to be had about the "legitimate" forms of corruption such as political donations etc...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't it proven corruption when John Key appointed one of his buddies to a high paying position and made a backroom deal with Sky and Warner and then got a job with a Chinese bank?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Not sure, but if it was proven and we did nothing about it, what message does that send to others that want to use their position to gain advantage.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

She should be removed from parliament, now that the investigation has concluded and she was found to be corrupt…get rid of her.

What's the process for this? Greens told her to go, and so she resigned from the party and not from parliament. Presumably Greens can't do any more, presumably the in power government can't kick out opposition MPs, but presumably there is a process to remove an MP when they abuse their position. Any idea what that process is?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They can use the "waka jumping" law to boot her, but they opposed that piece of legislation, and will presumably be unwilling to use it.

One would think she will eventually go of her own accord.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I guess when she isn't in the government and she's now independent she probably doesn't have much sway in parliament anyway.

I was just reading this from 2022: https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/08/17/explainer-what-happens-if-an-mp-is-expelled-from-their-party/

And noticed this closing statement:

The Waka Jumping option is available to all parties - however, it is unlikely National will utilise the legislation.

National voted against the law change in 2018 and still oppose the legislation. Leader Christopher Luxon says the party would repeal it if in government.

Luxon says a lot of things 😆

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Odd that blue and green agree so strongly on this.