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I just got a new laptop today and when I saw the ssd it blew my mind. Most of my old drives are like the second from left and it's what I think of as a normal drive, buying a standard ssd still feels small to me. But look at that tiny thing to the right! It's the size of a postage stamp!

Assuming I managed to find the right specs (it is a Microscience hh-1050): The monster on the far left is from 1990, holds 40mb, read/write of 0.625mb/s, and weighs almost exactly 2kg. The baby on the far right I got in the mail today, holds 1tb, read/write of 5150mb/s, and weighs about 2.85 grams.

So we're looking at 25,000 times more storage, 8,240 times faster, and 1/700th the weight! And the one on the right is just 1tb, they make one that same model but 2tb. I can barely believe it exists even though I'm literally holding it in my hands.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

what's the one on the right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

It's an M.2 NVMe or sata drive.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I remember all the formats shown.

My first machine was an AST Research 286 16Mhz (in "turbo" mode) with two 5-1/4" floppy drives, and a 40 MB 5-1/4" hard drive. I paid ~$2000 for it in the late 80s. That was a good move, I knew more about computers than most people applying for jobs at the time, and that allowed me to make a decent living without a college degree.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Oldest hard drives I've dealt with were 4RU. Those systems also had me attaching reels of tape with write enable rings.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Is that NVME only half length still with a full TB? It almost looks to be the same size as an M.2 wifi adapter. Crazy that they're getting this small.

I recently bought two cheaper 1TB NVME and have some premium ones from several years ago but they're all the full 80mm length. I have yet to come across ones this small personally.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

2280 seems to be the most common DIY size, 2230 is common for business machines, sometimes in an adapter to fit a normal 2.5" HDD bay or a slot large enough for 2280. I just removed one from the 2280 adapter last week to get data off after the storm came through the east coast.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The fact that those measurements are in inches when “2280” means 22mm x 80mm agitates me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

There's terabyte SD cards now, that are almost that fast.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

I remember being astounded by the 8GB backup tapes that fit in my shirt pocket.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I started on 3.5" HDDs in the 90s. I am running 3.5" HDDs today. They are still the most cost efficient.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That would hold 1.66 copies of war and peace.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Once you have one copy on there it would be awfully wasteful to fill the rest up with a 0.66 copy though.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

ASCII wasn't around then, so it would perhaps be stored in 5-bit ITA2, or 6/7-bit FIELDATA. So likely a 5/8 to 7/8 space savings (unless the numbers are for compressed War and Peace).

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I think I have two I could put on the left side. A "full-height" 5.25 inch drive with 5 megabytes and a DEC removable disk platter assembly, somewhere over a foot in diameter and 8 to 10 inches high. I don't remember how much capacity that had. It was for a RP04 or RP06 drive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

And it will continue...

Soon we'll have 100TB "drives" the size of a thumb nail for 50€.

We'll all (we geeks anyways) walk around with the Wikipedia, all Star Trek movies and so on in our pocket :-)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

The 1TB and up microSD cards blow my mind.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

And they all last until about the same date

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Ahh yes, I remember my first Seagate ST225. A whopping 20 MB of storage for the low low price of 800 bucks.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Do manufacturers use the extra space for larger batteries, or just to make the product smaller overall?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

This is for desktop PC. But the correct answer is overall smaller because if you only had spinny drives a lot of small devices wouldn't be possible.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

It'd be gnar if the smallest one was also a magnetic platter hard drive.

The smallest old style hard drive I can think of is the iPod. But now I want to know if any magnetic platter drives got smaller than that... 🤔

Afaik, it's all been solid state after that. Even newer iPods.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Oh wow. I didn't even know that was a platter drive! I'm kinda glad I kept that thing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

ADORABLE AAAAA

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's so tiny! 😍

Omg it was made in 1998?! :O

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Pulled from my Life drive :)

And further into the article: "Toshiba decided to skip the 1" form factor, and in March 2004 announced a 0.85" drive that shipped in September of the same year.[38] "

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

gnar

You made me think of GWAR

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Gwar is pretty gnar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As far as I'm aware 1.8" is the smallest form factor for mechanical hard drives.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Nope, they did make 0.85" ones. Here's someone taking one apart: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QB0KdAj54xg

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It really is amazing, and just popping an m.2 into a motherboard directly is just so... easy. And I think Gen5s are what, 2.5x faster than what you're showing here?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The screw situation is finicky. It's a weird mix between you're supposed to have screws from your case/motherboard or sometimes the drive comes with one. But if you move stuff and drop the tiny tiny screw it's a hassle. Every motherboard should just have the little tab you just turn to keep it in place.

Plus the newer gen fast drives get hot so they need a heatsink. The fastest maybe need heatsink plus airflow. So then you need an extra fan if you don't have enough airflow which is easy because it's flush against the motherboard and sometimes blocked by the GPU.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Full agree on the screw situation, although my most recent mobi addressed that with a sort of... turnable plastic lock thing? And a built in heatsink and "shield" for the gen 5 and 4 ports, so I haven't had any issues with heat. I get the sense we'll have a better standard as time goes in though, Gen5 is really really new.

But even the gen 3s are lovely. Maybe I just hate SATA cables, haha.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the compsci building at uni, there is a museum of sorts in the hall to the labs. At the beginning of the storage section, there is a 20Mb storage device. It is the size of a washing machine, I have no idea how much it weighs, but it has to be in the 100's of kg range.

Sitting on top are much more modern devices, 5.25"/3.5"/2.5" drives; I haven't been back for a decade to know if they kept going as tech improved.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Sitting on top" is a brilliant way to display that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Very effective.

The RAM section with the hand woven memory modules is so awesome. 1kb of RAM; tiny iron rings with fine copper wires threaded through them.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Having grown up along with the computer industry, sometimes I have that surreal sense of awe when I remember where we came from and what I used to consider cutting edge. Just upgraded my computer with a few SSDs, one an M.2, and before I put it in I was looking at it and trying to come to grasp with the scale of things (size and speed) vs. my first C-64 computer and Datasette. I know the numbers...they don't convey the difference in the head.

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