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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

it's such bullshit that sleeping in your vehicle is illegal, but just leaving your vehicle laying around is considerably less illegal.

edit: legal instead of illegal, average skill issue

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Ya figured it out! have a cookie

[–] [email protected] 79 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The initial lawsuit was in a town with ~600 fewer available beds than residents. These people literally did not have anywhere else to go, and our highest court just said 'tough shit'.

Holy fuck, y'all.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, these are the kind of people who make me question my pacifism 🤬

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I'm furious. I just read through as much as I could and asked GPT for a summary so I didn't miss anything. It's just about as bad as I thought.

The court is literally arguing that they're not criminalizing homelessness, they're just criminalizing 'sleeping in public' but makes no attempt to justify that with the fact that there literally aren't places to go. When Sotomayor tries to argue that cities should be responsible for providing adequate housing, they just hem and haw at 'What even IS adequate? We may never know. Plus, if we give them BEDS, they'll probably want something to keep them WARM too! That's just too much!'

It's abhorrent and inhumane.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

Not seeing the trees for the forest, gump

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I'm pretty sure that's the intent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I know. They just used to do a much better job hiding it. Just like their racism.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

i mean, that's literally what they want. they want you dead. that's what conservatives have always wanted.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Conservatives don't want you dead. They want you working (until you die) - preferably in labor camps (prisons), where you will go for sleeping outside.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

They want liberals dying at a rate higher than conservatives. Ever wonder why people tend to be more conservative when they get older? It is not like aging is changing people's minds.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

politicians and people in power, yes. the conservatives in general, the voters, they just hate you and want you dead.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 4 months ago (6 children)

As seen in Dallas next to a school of divinity

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No no my man suicide is a sin. You're supposed to vegetate and suffer in undignified misery until you finally die -just as God has intended for your life to be

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

no, no, conservatives will never support this idea. death is too easy an out. why should they allow those that they view as lesser to have an escape from an absolute living hell? no, they intend to make slaves out of them. step one is to criminalize being homeless. then, the homeless can easily become prisoners in horrific private prisons. conveniently, they can now legally be used as slave labor! the prison corporations don't even have to foot the bills - taxpayers will pay enough to keep the prisoners alive (barely), so the work they force them to do is all profit, a capitalist dream. if they won't work, no worries! it's illegal to torture them, of course, but conveniently, the legal definitions of torture do not include being locked alone in a windowless always-lit featureless room indefinitely with only moldy nutriloaf for food that tastes like human shit, so they can just do that as an "encouragement tactic" until they decide to start toiling properly.

incidentally, and entirely unrelatedly I'm sure, they also want really bad to roll back discrimination protections for women, LGBT, and all minorities, so that anyone can be denied work or housing for "any reason". weird. I'm sure it's not because they want to be able to torture and enslave us "undesirables" with complete impunity, because that would really be antithetical to their primary religion's teachings haha

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Oh yes, the part in the Bible where Jesus looks at the poor and goes "kys lol"

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Believe it not, straight to jail

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

This is how you get violent homeless people.

If they're fighting to just survive, they'll be using everything at their disposal.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

The crime is life. The sentence is death.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago (3 children)

So, in many states....

  1. Can't be homeless.
  2. Can't be dead on purpose (suicide's illegal).
  3. Can't have an abortion.
  4. Can't marry a same-sex spouse.
  5. Can't get healthcare if you don't have a job, and even if you can, it's super expensive and not likely to cover everything.

So I guess, just make sure that you're born well-to-do, never make any mistakes, and are a straight, cis-gender man. Really narrows things down and puts life into clear perspective.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (4 children)

AFAIK gay marriage is still legal in all states. Weirdly that’s one they haven’t been able to crack.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s federally legal, but far as I can tell, some states don’t recognize those marriages, and others outright prohibit them, although it’s not enforceable. Still fucked up, IMO.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

AFAIK, states are not allowed to prohibit same-sex marriages. Individual cities/towns can refuse to perform a marriage, but they still must recognize a marriage that was performed elsewhere.

It's just allowing the bigots to inconvenience queer people for no reason. It doesn't really prevent marriages (yet).

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don’t forget they charge for every day in jail

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Jeez. It's sort of the worst kind of dystopic future there is.

Concrete walls, iron bars, hard labor, and an ever increasing debt.

Maybe I'm dumb, but how hard would it be to just not agree to work? They gonna beat you to death? Sounds better than being a slave

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

If you work you earn money for commissary and potentially time off for good behavior, if you don’t, you don’t.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

They gonna beat you to death?

Nono, it's much worse! They'll torture you until you WISH they'd have beat you to death and then they'll torture you some more!

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 4 months ago (2 children)

No you'll get fined, fail to pay fines, get arrested for failing to pay fines, get sent to prison and work as a slave forever as court fines increase in perpetuity.

Republicans want to bring slavery back wholesale and they are succeeding.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The American experiment has failed.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nonsense. This is the American dream. To be a pleasant one for the rich it has to be a nightmare for others.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It actually doesn't have to be a nightmare for anyone. The rich can have perfectly pleasant lives while everyone is provided for. It's just not the most profitable situation for the rich. To have their best life, everyone else must be miserable.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (4 children)

We live in a post scarcity economy, but not a post scarcity society. Depressing as fuck.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, that is exactly what they want.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yup they'll use the poor as a source for cheap aquarium gravel

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Ia that what we call fish food now?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Guess I'll just die

"Great, were glad you understand the message. Just don't die anywhere visible, heh, we don't need corpses stinking up the streets" - SCOTUS, probably

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You’re allowed to exist, if you pay for it!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

With money you don't have.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Gotta fill the ~~slave camps~~ prisons somehow!

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How many of the supreme court justices own stakes in for profit prisons?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Forced labor is not exclusive to private prisons. Federal and state prisons employ inmates just the same.

Our nation incarcerates more than 1.2 million people in state and federal prisons, and two out of three of these incarcerated people are also workers.

https://www.aclu.org/news/human-rights/captive-labor-exploitation-of-incarcerated-workers

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At least with federal and state prisons doing it - it technically* benefits everyone, where private prisons are just lining someone's pockets.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

It doesn’t. It’s a way for taxes to indirectly support corporations on the backs of inmates.

https://apnews.com/article/prison-to-plate-inmate-labor-investigation-c6f0eb4747963283316e494eadf08c4e

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Jails and prisons also purchase a ton of goods and services from for profit companies, who are all too happy to upcharge ("you can't put a price on safety!"), and the wardens just sign on the dotted line and hand the bill over to taxpayers

This documentary from about 20 years ago went to one of their tradeshows, and even back then they were talking about how it corrections was a billion dollar industry

e; mirror link for Up the Ridge

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