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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

No. There is no Loss here. I refuse. I refuse

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

This was made by someone who hates bikers and just wants to see them smeared across the pavement

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Oh I get it. The top picture is a bike. 🚲 The bottom picture is the same bike after being hit by a 6ft tall SUV while trying to cross that intersection.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Looks like a dumb redneck kid trying to draw a swastika

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ahh, the classic "we built this six lane monstrosity of a road for cars and have scraps here, here and here for the legally mandated bike lane that people voted for, but we don't really want to piss the NIMBYs off. Fuck it, just make it as cheap and inconvenient as possible."

If the roles were reversed, drivers would be kicking down the door to the mayor, lol.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I really appreciate my town's bike infrastructure. We have protected bike lanes with a berm between cyclists and traffic, as well as bike left turn "boxes" that essentially put you first in line of the cross traffic stopped at a red light.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't speak bikeniese can someone translate?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

This bike lane is on the left side, but the bike lanes in the rest of the city are on the right. Someone then thought the best way to connect them is to have them cross 2 streets to get to the bike path leading to the right, and from there take 2 left turns if they want to go left, which also has a separate lane for right turns - just for the cars, of course, so that is another lane bicycles need to cross.

So, depending how the traffic lights work, bicycles have to wait up to 5 times to do a simple left turn. The traffic needs to flow after all, and traffic just means car traffic to some city planners.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

The absolute state of...

...German transportation infrastructure?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Is this Loss?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I want steakweek

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Me planning my next move in life.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Choosing your path through the multiverse

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

At least you know you'll be doing it by bicycle 🚲

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I thought it was a warning... Be careful or your bike will end up in this shape.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

They need a sign like this which gets the point across:

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is made sense pretty much right away for me. It's like a roundabout, go around to the right until you have your exit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Congrats. What about everyone else? There are clearly enough people here that this is confusing for it be taken seriously. Especially since this is how cyclists get killed.

Ps. Fuck cars

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I suggest everyone else step up their game and learn how to read signs. It really is not a complicated sign. I thought the arrows were enough, but perhaps if the sign were written in crayon it would help.

Ps. Fuck bicycles

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For a second I thought we were in the fuckcars community and I couldn't believe you said fuck bicycles.

I hope you don't really hate bicycles though. Wonderful mode of transit overall.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not really, no. I do think the cyclists have the worst sense of entitlement though. I'm down for a better infrastructure to accommodate cycling, but as is, more often than not I see them not obeying the laws of the road, or riding on sidewalks, or slow riding in the middle of the road instead of getting over to the side to give room to pass. Often when I'm running down the nature trail, I will encounter incoming cyclists two wide hogging the trail, and think I'm going to give up my half. I hug the middle line so one of those ungrateful twats has to get over. Also the assholes that don't alert when they pass. Going down the trail and Johnny Bikeman blows by with no warning, which is extremely inconsiderate, dangerous, and scary. Often the ride with loud music, and that pisses me off to. Put on headphones, nobody wants to hear your trash, Doppler effect music.

Obviously that's not all cyclists and this is a generalization, (like vegans and CrossFit) but it's been a notable part of my experiences with them. I have a bike that I use to exercise and train with, and when I go out and ride I make sure to follow the rules and minimize my interference with others. It's pretty simple.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

As someone who cycles as my primary mode of transport for 8 months out of the year, I absolutely empathize with you about bad bicycle riders that endanger others.

Where I live in the US, it's legal to take as much of the lane as is needed to be safe. Often in the city that means riding in the middle of the lane so that I don't get doored by parked cars, and sometimes it's so cars have to completely move into the opposite lane to pass me -- usually near intersections -- because it's the safest way for me to avoid getting physically pushed out of my lane. Many drivers don't give a damn if they push a cyclist off the road or into a curb.

Where I live It seems like most riders don't alert when passing and it drive me nuts. They should know better.

And finally, in the spirit of fairness, every bad habit you mentioned about cyclists can also be applied to cars, even driving on the damn sidewalk.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

At first I thought the bottom was just two different deconstructions of the bicycle

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not that hard to read from here, but definitely hard to read cycling

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Sign or not this is pretty much how cyclists are supposed to cross most big intersections and the inconvenience of it is the reason so many of them break the rules. If you make rules that are too complicated, counterintuitive or inconvenient people will break them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Basically bikes have to go around the intersection as if it was a roundabout

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That might be Switzerland. White frames around traffic lights are not typical for Germany. And the sign itself would likely have a white background instead of a yellow one. Also there is a Molly Malone Pub with a similar typography as the one in the ad in Winterthur, Switzerland.

And yes, it's a very boring day today

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Is it not obvious? You're not allowed to go straight from the sign is.

You have to make a right if you want to make a right, a left or continue going straight.

They probably have the lanes marked out too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

https://www.adfc.de/artikel/den-regeln-der-stvo-folgen

In principle, cyclists may choose whether to turn left directly or indirectly.

When turning directly left, cyclists may also leave cycle paths that are subject to mandatory use in order to turn directly left, but must pay attention to straight ahead traffic, which has the right of way. If you want to turn directly left, get into the middle of the lane in good time and follow the traffic lights of the corresponding lane.

When turning indirectly left, the cyclist first stays to the right and crosses the junction or intersection. They then turn left. The cyclist therefore crosses two lanes straight ahead.

Of course, the question arises as to whether you want to cycle on the road or prefer to stay on the cycle path.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

As a cyclist you're in constant danger around car traffic. Insisting on your Rufus will likely get you killed. We need cycling infrastructure that is separate from car infrastructure and that will create some inconvenience for car drivers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why don't kids just bike to school anymore.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

That and (in America at least) closing neighborhood schools to consolidate them into larger ones further away. They're allegedly better because they can offer more variety of classes and amenities, but losing local schools, which serve as a focus of the community, can destroy neighborhoods. (Example: English Avenue School closing in 1995, and the surrounding neighborhood suffering a huge increase in crime shortly thereafter.)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Man, I hate the detours you're supposed to take as a pedestrian or bicyclist, so that car drivers don't get inconvenienced.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I'm sure there are plenty of car drivers who'd take the challenge to follow those bike routes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

It makes sense, it's just stupidly presented.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

It makes sense if you believe that cars should have absolute priority in traffic and should never never ever be in the slightest inconvenienced in order to make life easier for cyclists.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

If I need 5min to read and understand a road sign which you will pass at >15km/h annd have 10sek to read it's just bad.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's presented the way it is, it's just shit infrastructure.

Someone designed this intersection and got asked where the bike paths were and they went "oh, the bikepaths, yeah, they exist.... here and here and here... it's just not on this particular slide, or any other slide I've brought today. It'll totally be there on the final thing."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Hence the "hmmmm."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Hitler seems to still be building the Autobahns

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