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So it's no secret that some parts of the army in the USA and my country (UK) sometimes use legacy software like DOS for niche roles as they're robust including older versions of Windows.

But.. where does Linux fit in this? It's a kernel OS that's used in top of the line supercomputers, workstations, medical equipment and weather stations.

I imagine some aspects of this would be military secrets but how do they use it? I know that Linux was used for certain space projects with NASA but I'm talking about army applications.

TLDR : Does the penguin OS power shooty shooty machines and tanks

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Don’t look too deeply into this unless you’re comfortable discovering that the military and security state is a prolific contributor to many open source projects.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (2 children)

SELinux was a product of the NSA. Maybe the best thing that agency has done.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Greek military uses Linux Mint, so yeah, it's used in some places. I believe the Indian one does too.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-Hats-decade-of-collaboration-with-government-and-the-open-source-community

When we rolled into Baghdad, we did it using open source. - Major General Nicholas Justice

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

as they're robust

I would argue they are just what was used during development. After that, it never changes.

Why did they use it back then? Were there many alternatives? I do not know.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I haven't done any work for the military but i can say that all the legacy systems I've worked on were because the specific software they need was written only for Windows 98 and the developer or company that created it is long gone. Keeping it going is a chore but switching to literally anything else is out of the question.

I could see for military applications that having the known quantity of a working piece of software that isn't changing anymore and can be swapped as an entire unit is an advantage, especially if it doesn't touch the internet in any capacity. But eventually you run out of people who know what to do if any changes need to be made.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Linux is commonly used in the communications systems, like on invidual radio "stations". Propably used everywhere where high confidentiality and security is required.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've heard that the DoD uses RHEL pretty extensively. RHEL in the US Military

That article says that the US military has the largest single install base for RHEL in the world, but that was about 15 years ago, I don't know if that's still true.

Apparently back then the US nuclear sub fleet and its sonar systems also ran on RHEL.

I suspect lots of military hardware runs some form of *Nix or BSD type system. Many embedded systems run some *Nix type OS, and a huge portion of the developed world's weaponry is smart, so it it full of low power embedded systems and custom SoCs.

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