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Michigan Republicans' bill: Make AR-15 state's official rifle (www.detroitnews.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Some days, those who would ~~command~~ ~~govern~~ represent us just make it too easy for, among other things, finding "post fodder."

In the shadow of Michael William Nash's demonstration of his 2^nd^ Amendment rights on Saturday, according to The News…

Twelve Michigan House Republicans have sponsored a bill this month to the name the AR-15 "the official rifle of this state," drawing criticism from opponents who labeled the proposal unserious and inappropriate.

For those who don't know, the AR-15 is a semi-automatic rifle. Bear that in mind when reading the following.

State Rep. Brian BeGole, R-Antrim Township, a former Shiawassee County sheriff, was the primary backer of the AR-15 measure and said in a statement issued Tuesday that thousands of people in Michigan own an AR-15. […] “This distinction recognizes these law-abiding gun owners who are often vilified just for having a firearm as a hobbyist or to keep their homes and families safe," BeGole said.

That's some hobby. Keep their homes and families safe. Safe from the government BeGole has represented most of his life, according to the oft-debated 2^nd^ Amendment.

However, Ryan Bates, director of End Gun Violence Michigan, said BeGole's bill was about "worshiping the rifle that is the preferred weapon of mass shooters." […] Bates noted that on Friday, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down a federal ban on bump stocks, a rapid-fire gun accessory that was used in a mass shooting at a music festival Las Vegas in 2017.

"That shooter used 23 AR-style rifles modified with bump stocks to kill 58 people and injure nearly 500 in mere minutes," Bates said. "We now live in a world where any deranged person can turn an AR-style rifle into a machine gun capable of firing 400-800 rounds per minute, a level of firepower that quite simply overwhelms law enforcement."

We all know that rabbit and pheasant can get pretty mean. And who doesn't like their venison pre-ground? To quote my favorite philosopher and thinker, myself…

It’s forever High Noon in this nation of cowboys.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

It all makes sense when you realize his other proposal is to change their state nickname from "The Wolverine State" to "The Mass Shooting State."

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The state of Michigan has no historical connection to the AR-15, to my knowledge. Why don't they pick something that is actually native to Michigan like the Johnston Muzzleloader?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (9 children)

I'm a gun owner. I have an AR-15. I don't want to hurt anybody, just to be able to defend my home against these very same lunatics. If anybody is going to get guns banned in the USA, it's gonna be these people doing it to themselves by their unsafe, insane, hateful practices endangering everybody else.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Lol, i need a gun to protect myself from others with guns

Aside from a ban meaning you don’t need one anymore. If you’re ever in a position where you need a gun, then it’s already too late to protect yourself

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, maybe you're right. The cops will keep us all safe from fascists.

Too bad about Ukraine and how they fell in 3 days when the Russians invaded. After all, if you need weapons to defend yourself, it's already too late. Everybody knows that. The best policy is always to immediately surrender and hope they decide to be nice to you.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Ukraine and Russia were fighting for a decade before that

If you think your easy bake rifle is enough to prevent a foreign invasion that overwhelms the US military then you’re ignorant enough to be a gun supporter

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Oh thank you, what an excellent point you've made. Truly, you have destroyed the argument for self defense.

I never suggested we would be invaded by foreigners. Nor did I suggest fighting cops and the military, did I?

I said fascists. Yup, I sure did. Reading is fundamental.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Shout out to California’s gun laws only existing because of the Black Panthers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Well, only because Republicans, the NRA, and cops were terrified and absolutely beside themselves at the idea of black people arming themselves and organizing for community support and defense.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Does that mean the AR-15 is a sanctioned school shooter gun?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Can they make school shootings the official state shooting?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What kind of connection does Michigan even have with the AR15? The only think I can find is the wife of the designer died there decades after he died in Florida. They couldn't name it after a gun that is produced there? Are they are so obsessed with identifiable firearms that they can't give their own designers any spotlight?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's what I was thinking, why the AR-15?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If the reason is something other than “culture war bullshit” I’ll eat an uncooked hot dog.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are we not supposed to be eating uncooked hot dogs?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I guess the CA state rifle is the mini-14 :[

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

The official gun of California is this one

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

When I was younger, hunting with an ar15 was illegal. Apparently that has changed? Or maybe it was always legal in Michigan. https://thegunzone.com/are-ar15s-legal-for-deer-hunting-in-michigan/

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It was never illegal to hunt with an AR. Hunting restrictions are based on caliber (5.56x45mm being too small kill a deer reliably) and magazine capacity.

Modern Michigan compliant hunting rifles based on the AR platform have low capacity magazines and utilize straight walled case and larger caliber, higher weight and lower velocity projectiles like .350 legend and .450 bushmaster, resulting in a round that effectively knocks down a deer while having a much shorter effective range (less likely to shoot far beyond its intended target in the event of a miss)

So yeah, a modern AR using a purpose specific medium game cartridge is in fact safer than a bolt action rifle with a faster longer distance round.

Source: lefty gun owner that wants some reasonable and effective gun control measures and is tired of people who know fuck nothing about firearms having uneducated opinions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the update. It's been 20+ years since I've deer hunted so that's good info

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