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Picture shows a pride parade. A group of people are carrying a banner that says "LOCKHEED MARTIN" over a rainbow graphic.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

they might ... you know ... be gay and work at lockheed martin ... and got their managers to pay for some shit for pride. maybe could submit expense reports and have the trip paid for ...

there were times when gay people couldn't work at lockheed martin. i prefer this photo to that.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (40 children)

The fact that anyone, let alone LGBTQ+ people, can go to the streets holding a "Lockheed Martin" sign and not get shamed into dropping it, shows we're failing as a society

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago

If all of a sudden the white power movement had mass public support, these corpos would have their logos plastered over red, black, and white banners by next week. Fuck em.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (26 children)

IDK, I'd rather the people making the weapons be on our side.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

When the new gay CEO unfairly fires 2000 workers, gay and straight alike 🤑👌

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Lockheed-Martin doesn't commit war crimes, the governments you elected or didn't, do the war crimes. They're a weapon and aeronautical reasearch, development, and manufacturing company. Building weapons and planes and jets is something every single nation on Earth does (or buy from those that do). This is just as silly as Coca-Cola sponsoring Pride, maybe even more so if you knew what they've been up to.

Corporations are not your friend or ally, rainbow or not. It doesn't matter what they support because they are all in some way evil. But if people want their support in Pride, why not?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bold of you to assume that there's no cause-effect relation between what Lockheed-Martin execs deem profitable, and whatever policy the US takes. Lobbying is a thing, and the same investors that put money in military conglomerates, put money into lobbying and into media. If you can't see how the existence of powerful capitalist companies that make weapons is detrimental to a democracy, I don't know what to tell you.

What's this bullshit? Now we can't criticise the military conglomerates because "they're just companies doing company things"? Nah fuck that and fuck Lockheed Martin, selling weapons to an imperialist government makes you as bad as the imperialist government.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I hope you where paid by Lockheed-Martin. Don't make unfair competition to public relationship

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Corporations want to be perceived as people, and they are protected by law as such. A person who knowingly manufactures weapons that are being used to commit a genocide is a psychopath. Psychopaths typically feign empathy to appear normal and blend in with society. Lockheed Martin supporting Pride is an example of such behavior.

Of course corporations are profit maximization engines, not people. By allowing them to act like people, we are normalizing psychopathy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That ship sailed centuries ago.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Cool. Enjoy your dystopia.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The same plant makes missiles for Ukraine and bombs for Israel. Corporate doesn't care, the governments need to instead.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My first pride experience involved wearing a Kuffiyeh and shouting at my local military contractor’s HR department and the one visibly LGBTQ person as they strolled down the street appalled that people didn’t want them there.

No pride in genocide,

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 68 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Getting wealthy on war profiteering while wrapping yourself in the pride flag. Great, just great...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (11 children)

Is there at least any way we can leverage this so that bigots become literally scared of mistreating queer people? Like, if you deliberately misgender someone or use a homophobic slur everyone goes quiet and scatters in different directions because they are anticipating the drone strike.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"My pronouns might be they/them, but yours are about to be were/was."

This message brought to you by Lockheed Martin: proudly supporting LGBTQ+ drone pilots worldwide.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I'd say that it's better to frame it as; lockheed supports lgbtq+ but lgbtq+ does not support lockheed as long as lockheeds business-model is based on killing people.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I know it's difficult but you don't speak for everyone that isn't straight, you don't get to decide what the whole group thinks.

Having sex with people of the same gender is not a political position, sexuality does not determine political and moral views. Plenty of gay people have political and moral perspectives which differ from your own and they are still valid in their sexuality.

Pride should be for everyone who wants to celebrate LGBT, it's not a political party. Yes that means people you don't agree with politically get to celebrate too.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Right wing queer people aren't invalid in their identity, they're just shunned for aiding people who will oppress all of us. Blaire White is a valid woman, but she's not welcome at pride because she works to make our lives worse for short term gain. Bernie Sanders is cishet, but he's welcome at pride for being a long time ally of queer rights.

Pride isn't for queer people by virtue of their identity; it's for all people that fight for our right to proudly exist.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

I'd say that it's better to frame it as; lockheed does not support lgbtq+ but does support free publicity.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I can't say if this specific one is authentic but I would not be surprised, as my company does the same: branded pride flags, t-shirts for their LGBTQ+ employees. And I'm torn on this, because I feel a bit bad about the branding aspect of it, but on the other hand the company putting their name to openly support all sexual and gender identities does seem like a good thing to do....

Yes, the irony of a company that produces more efficient ways of killing people being concerned with social issues does not escape me. But there are employees of the company who apparently support both (and good for them)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's also led by LGBT people and allies within the company. The goal is to make it a nicer place to work and recruit talent; whatever PR comes their way is just a perk.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Any employee of Lockheed Martin who's an ally attended on their own, not behind company branding. This is just a big business rainbowwashing itself. Using queer people as a tool to improve its own social capital.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Well that doesn't really adress the point

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Is this picture real? I mean, for real, real...? Link to video?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I live near another military contractor, and I saw them in pride this year. I’d say this is real.

It’s pretty disgusting ngl

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