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The funny thing about this that nobody here cared when Iran was bombing these places and treating Palestinians like human refuse for decades. Post 9/11 Americans literally think they own the Middle East and treat it like their playground and want it to bend to its will.
Fix your own dumpster fire Americans, i know it’s easier to just criticize other countries though.
Hey, you can't just rebrand literal propaganda as satire!
I mean, it is satiric & very funny, but it's on the same level of fuckery as The Onion reporting regular news - unbelievable, sounding sarcastic, fucked up, & funny (until you realise it's just true :D).
(This is a joke comment ofc, the standoffishness is faked for lame comedic purposes.)
I wonder: would that region of the world have reached some sort of equilibrium if the rest of the world didn’t constantly fuck with them, or would it just be a different kind of shitshow?
As with other regions, the wars between neighbouring(ish) countries subside with cultural & economic development - if the countries (ever) get to that point (cross several big thresholds). And we don't even have enough data to verify if this is even actually true.
But like Europe, constant warring for millennia up until 19th century, then sure, two really big wars, but you could already see how culture & economy of the masses shifted & favoured peace over war ("even with the stinking neighbours who we are racist towards"), it became harder to entice wars and/or to convince people we need a war with a neighbour.
I feel like this sort of rule of majority (in practice) & low scarcity is the natural equilibrium where huge efforts for maintaining peace aren't required.
(Even both WW were because of this equilibrium shifted massively into huge inequalities.)
African countries (so lower industrial development & big inequalities even on small scales bcs scarcity for basics, like food & life opportunities, exaggerates those) see constant proper wars (1 on 1 skirmishes between two countries or even regions), but since mass starvation became a thing of the past, so did the fighting become less intense.
(Africa is huge tho, generalisations like this aren't representative of actual issues.)
With that I think Middle East would definitely be a much more peaceful place without massive colonialist fuckery over the centuries, or at least without Russia & USA (which covers establishing Israel). Longer lasting stable culture & increasing trade dependency & prosperity + no foreigners financing radical terrorist groups (which comparatively quickly become the dominant power by sheer asset value), yes, I think it would be a much better place & wars a lot shorter.
Now, imagine that Middle East but if the world was already off of fossil fuels for the last century (so less inequality between countries).
Maybe a great (and accessible) active cultural hub between Europe & India?
I feel like without oil the middle East would be like northern Africa. No real natural resources to kickstart an economy leading to seemingly perpetual poverty.
Everything improving for the better is part of that "equilibrium." Peace and stability improves education which just makes everything better over time.
When Taliban first took over Afghanistan they had banned women from attending highschool. They later opened up "training courses" with same curricilum as highschools that women are allowed to attend.
Progress is slow, but the many economic sanctions placed on the country doesn't help.
Overall situation is still extremely bad there but the reason Taliban got to run that country in the first place is two centuries of imperialism (The British) so more of it isn't gonna help.
Almost certainly the former. Same with Africa.
Almost all major conflicts and broken political situations can be traced back to colonialism and/or organized religion.
I don't have an answer to how to handle the region, it's beyond me. The Israel state sucks ass and it's committing genocide.
But the Iranian state are also extremist and I don't doubt for a millisecond would do terrible things if it had the support Israel has.
What do you mean would? They already contribute massively to destabilising the region. They dont just attack isreal either.
And you don't think it would be worse when an air force and nukes?
Its already maximally bad. Both sides have been doing everything in their power to destroy the other. From isreal it looked like they weren't doing anything to Iran directly but we can see now they were setting up for this operation for the past 4 years at least. So yeah it can't any worse unless isreal uses its nukes, Iran develops and uses a nuke or another major power joins the fray which are all very unlikely (us is already involved another major power would be russia, China, India, Pakistan)
I think this can lead to a good outcome. If Iran has a democratic election and elects a leader who isnt a religious extremist they can liberalise. If that happens isreal would also need to make massive concessions and chill the fuck out. The end needs to be a Palestinian state.
two things can be bad at the same time
The message of this post is spot on but im weirdly annoyed that the meme format has been used wrong lol.
Who owns the US Congress?
I believe Russia and Israel are currently enjoying joint custody of the US, though Israel has the majority of custodial rights.
Russia owns the majority through the MAGA/Evangelical wingnut lobby and ExxonMobil/BP/Shell in other cases. Israel covers all bases.
Russia during official events and gatherings, Israel the rest of the time.
