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I bought 175 g pack of salami which had 162 g of salami as well.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 76 points 11 months ago (9 children)

The FDA regulation on Net Weight is found in 21 CFR 101.105. In this regulation FDA makes allowance for reasonable variations caused by loss or gain of moisture during the course of good distribution practice or by unavoidable deviations in good manufacturing practice. FDA states that variations from the stated quantity of contents should not be unreasonably large.

While FDA does not provide a specific allowable tolerance for Net Weight, this matter could come under FTC jurisdiction. FTC has proposed regulations that would unify USDA and FDA Net Contents labeling and incorporate information found in the National Institute of Standards & Technology (NIST) Handbook 133.

NIST Handbook 133 specifies that the average net quantity of contents in a lot must at least equal the net quantity declared on the label. Plus or minus deviation is permitted when caused by unavoidable variation in weighing and measuring that occur in good manufacturing practice. The maximum allowable variance for a package with a net weight declaration of 5 oz is 5/16 oz. Packages under-filled by more than this amount are considered non-compliant.

http://www.foodconsulting.com/q&a.htm

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

5/16 oz

How many football fields to the gallon is that? On a serious note this is something far better expressed as a fraction than an amount of difference for one specific container size...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (6 children)

You can't divide 5/16 by 5?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's not really clear whether the variance scales linearly with weight. We only know 1 data point. It could be bracketed for different weight groups.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The FDA is probably not operating in what I can only assume is Canada from the Eng/Fra and grams usage.

But I’m sure they have something to allow for fluctuations in weight, would rather it be mandated as a minimum allowing for a bit of extra weight to over compensate however.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (5 children)

A lot of American stuff has English French and Spanish so it can cover the whole continent basically

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

The maximum allowable variance for a package with a net weight declaration of 5 oz is 5/16 oz.

oddly, that's just over 8g, the difference noted in OP's example. so, OP's package is within he allowable tolerance, just.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

5/16 oz out of 5 oz is just over 6%.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Could be worth checking your scale, if everything seems to be underweight. Low battery can show as lower result on some scales

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Fun fact: a US nickel weighs 5.000g, and 5 US quarters weigh 1.0000oz

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I need to start using old batteries in my bathroom scale.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

I use no batteries and am very happy with what it displays.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Weigh another one with the package and see if it matches to what it says on the package. Use the produce weight scale at the store so you don't have to buy two of them. I have a suspicion that you're buying the package. But then if that's the case then those meat moisture absorbers also will add a lot of weight when it comes to buying meat.

[–] [email protected] 146 points 11 months ago (8 children)

wouldnt weight slightly fluctuate with moisture content?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah what about the other one, like drops on a cold beer?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

can I see a pic out the box with it above weight stated?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Also, could it be the weight with the box?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When you see “Net weight” or a symbol that looks like a big minuscule “e”, it means that the package weight doesn’t count.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

8 grams? I doubt very much a cardboard box only weighs 8 grams.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You’re correct

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/3765768f-82f8-42eb-9d8e-6c2127c2b550.jpeg

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you want to get technical, aren't grams a measure of mass, not weight, so a kitchen scale needs to assume a value for gravity's acceleration to tell you grams, which could be slightly off depending where you are on earth?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Volume is not mass, and neither of them is weight. A gram is strictly speaking a measure of mass, and we just consider it to be a unit of weight in casual terms because the only frame of reference the vast majority of us have has reasonably constant gravity so we conflate mass and weight. That you can sort of use grams to measure volume is literally only because the density of common stuff (especially water) is close enough for most purposes. It's kinda like measuring a distance in units of time so long as the method of travel is known. I can say "an hour's walk" and I'm not really measuring distance there but you know roughly how far I mean

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

So they package it wet? If the weight went down it means the pasta was wetter at time of boxing.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (5 children)

not wet, but probably not nearly as dry, per se. also, fluctuations in temperature (specifically, mass of air in the packaging), as well as calibration issues on the devices- if you use two devices to measure... you'll always get slightly off measurements.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

RH during packing 55%, RH in OPs house 25%

Just different conditions, even ~~his~~ their (sorry) neighbors house could have a different RH and different results.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (12 children)

yeah, but that doesnt mean much. the hoover damn is still drying.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

So is all the water it's holding back 😱

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

yeah. 8g is a tiny weight difference here and could easily be accounted-for due to humidity with pasta. it's about the weight of 3-4 strands of that pasta

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