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I bought 175 g pack of salami which had 162 g of salami as well.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago (3 children)

🤔Hmm doubt it's humidity issue the issue. But more importantly why is it not in 500g packets like all the pasta in the world?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (11 children)

uh probably lines up with freedom units or cause funny number

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago

I have the same scale. I wouldn't trust it too far, especially combined with the tolerances and humidity weight changes.

[–] [email protected] 127 points 11 months ago (2 children)

-2% is probably allowed and this is -1.95%. It's okay I guess. I'd probably trust my cheap, regularly used and never calibrated kitchen scale less than I would trust these companies to comply with such rules.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Hopefully it’s got to average. If they’re cutting 2% off all the time that’s no good

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

"shrinkflation" or smth

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That would be outright illegal. It's more likely that op lives in lower humidity areas and non air tight food looses some water weight, or that op needs to calibrate their scale or buy a new one.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, uh… you realize there are net weight tolerances, right? Companies aren’t expected to get exactly the same weight for every single item they put out. And it’s not really possible for certain products.

This though, is likely pushing the limit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Op is talking like everything he weighs is shorted. The tolerances you speak of mean that sometimes you're a bit over, and sometimes you're a bit under.

But if my 40 pack of pizza rolls stops at 39, ima riot.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fwiw, I just put the contents of two packets of pasta on my own scale. The first was 1g under, the other 2g over.

I'm all for scrutinising companies, but I don't think Big Pasta is trying to cheat us here.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (9 children)

I was kinda confused why everyone's sucking the D of the corps here, and comments reiterating stuff already said.

But then I reminded myself at least 150 up voted this and all is right again.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Some of us work for corps and see people trying to do their best to help people every day. It’s tempting to think there’s this hidden layer of control somewhere, where the evil people are. Maybe it’s there, I dunno. To me the evil people seem to be spread throughout.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

So if moisture is a factor, what do you propose otherwise?

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I worked on a manufacturing line for 4oz pepper cans

They had a machine that weighed them and kicked out underweight ones.

The tolerances were horrible.

McCormick was 3.9 I think

Black and white can 3.5. !!!

Yes both were made on the same exact line

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Typical Big Noodle theft tactics

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

See also: 2x4s

(how is lumber measured in Europe? Are 2x4s called 2x4s? or 50x100s?)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

They reverse it in England, 4x2s

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not surprising but: metric units, and they are the units of the finished product not some arbitrary historical size lumber used to be

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

47 x 100 as I recall from my days working in a Builders Merchant, still referred to as 'four by two' by builders though

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago

If everything you're measuring is lower than expected, you should check the calibration of the scale. Weigh 2 or 3 things you know the weight of that are at different ranges of weights, light, heavy, medium, and see if any are off. Often a scale will be accurate at only within a certain range and get progressively less accurate as the weight increases or decreases from that range.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It's a 2% difference. The cutting and packaging is done (most probably) by machines. I have clinically diagnosed OCD, and I wouldn't care about 8g of missing pasta... How much do you leave on the plate/in the pot/throw away? :)

Otoh, hitting exactly 410g (assuming the scale is calibrated, and you have the same temperature, air moisture and altitude as the factory), is very difficult. They could adjust their machines so the variation hangs a bit more towards the customer, but for them, 2% x millions of boxes = profit.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This really isn't a big deal, the customer paid 2% less off this specific box. Oh.

This isn't a big deal, the customer paid 2% less than the calculated total for their entire order at checkout and only had to say "me shorting this transaction is just a statistical probability and you should view it as the cost of doing business with me." Oh.

This isn't a big deal, the customer gets massive subsidies from the government while the poor manufacturers have to pay stupid worker safety fees and unfair payroll during times of extreme economic 'fortune'. Oh.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

That seems around what I'd expect the measurement error to be anyway

[–] [email protected] 58 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most of our packaging machines require < 1%, target <0.5% variance (both ways). Honestly in practice, over a whole batch the total variance is extremely tiny.

Add to this story the accuracy of a household, not-calibrated scale? Yeah I'd say this seems OK.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What do you make?

Tolerances for food items depend a lot on item size, shape, and irregularity.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

I mean.. that's a good point. I only make bulk materials, like 1 ton supersaks, and we tend to OVERfill so customers don't complain, with the target still being close to zero for a whole batch.

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