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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Just stumbled upon this:

Academic calls for upgrade to sewage systems to protect health

The risk to public health from human faeces in our [UK] rivers and seas will increase without action to create a wastewater system fit for the future, according to Professor Barbara Evans, Leeds’ Professor of Public Health Engineering at the University of Leeds.

The report [led by Professor Evans]says collective action by industry, government, public bodies and the general public is required. It makes 15 recommendations, including: review current bathing water regulations; prioritise maintenance of the existing sewage network; return to collecting widespread data on faecal bacteria; develop a long-term strategy for better designing cities to reduce flooding, and the appointment of a dedicated wastewater champion.

Here is the report (pdf).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Privatise profit socialise loss

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

How do you go bankrupt selling a life essential that falls out of the sky for free?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Here's a fun thought - push a law through demanding a minimal level of service with forced nationalisation at the cost of the shareholders if it isn't met (government pays share price, but proceeds go towards settling company debt first rather than being paid out to shareholders).

Give them a way to fail that doesn't hurt the people who rely on the services, and punish running up unsustainable debt in one joyous law.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ah good, so my bill will rise and then my landlord will up the rents to cover whatever water shit she has to pay too. Brill. Love this Cuntry.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I have a house and for some reason they still make me pay water bills. Madness.

Also now the poor quality décor is my fault. I'm not into it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If it was a real private market they'd let the firm fail and the investors would take a haircut. Then either someone who could turn a profit while running a decent/affordable service would take over; or the govt would.

We're stuck in the worst of both worlds where it's a privatised monopoly which is unable to fail.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Exactly correct. We need to let them all fail.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Then goodbye every UK resident's pension that are invested in the water companies.

That's why they're "too big to fail". You let them fail, you'll throw people who are about 40 to 50 years old into further reliance on the state pension.

Better to prosecute the C-level executives and take the company back into public ownership.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

A proper pension is diversified. They don't invest entirely in one sector of business.

Unless you'll managing your own pension in which case that's your fault.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's a fair point I hadn't considered.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Out of interest I actually have just looked at how my pension is diversified and almost all of it is incredibly diversified. A lot I'd it is in pharmaceutical companies, and technology companies, but there's even investors in a company that makes things like electric fences and barbed wire, I guess because the barbed wire industry is not going to crash anytime soon.

If we are invested in water companies I can't find them, so they mustn't be a very significant percentage. And anyway why would they be? This scandal has been going on for so long that any pension management companies would have long since sold.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've pondered on this a bit.
Maybe the funds that thought it was appropriate to put for-profit public utilities in a pension fund should be the responsible parties, along with the water company executives they put in position to facilitate the asset stripping.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

That's something I'd like to see. Never going to happen in the UK.

In the 2008 financial crisis, I think Iceland was the only country to jail their irresponsible bankers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Water companies have been heavily criticised for widespread leaks and the amount of sewage being discharged, which critics have blamed on under-investment in the country's infrastructure.

...

Southern Water is owned by Australian firm Macquarie which has faced fierce criticism for the period when it was Thames Water’s biggest shareholder.

In five of the 10 years it owned Thames, the company paid out more in dividends than it made in profits, while debt rose from £2.5bn to over £10bn in the same period.

"Mum, I need money to repair my bike."

"We gave you money to repair your bike."

"Oh I spent it on sweets for me and my mates."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Up next the air and the Sun... peasant you gonna pay for fucking shitting here soon too... per each use 😜

Final stage: you pay some money changer for the right to sleep with your wife!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Up next the air and the Sun…

Don't give them ideas!

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