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"We can see the wreckage and the situation does not look good," the head of lran's Red Crescent, Pirhossein Kolivand, told state TV.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Feared dead" might not be the right phrase.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Reuters, AP, CNN, Fox News, Anthony Fantano, Hindustan times, Alex Jones all say confirmed dead

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why would you put Alex Jones in there?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

im a silly goose

also pretty sure he's still in his weekly alcohol induced coma, don't know if he actually said anything

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

What a lovely day

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m so curious to see how Iran will change over the next decade. Given that the Supreme Leader is quite old, the person who takes Raisi’s place is going to be really influential in the Middle East at a time when the whole region is a pressure cooker.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the person who takes Raisi’s place is going to be really influential

Impossible. President of Iran is a powerless figurehead position.

The next Supreme Leader will be relevant, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is my bad; I had read somewhere that the president would be considered for the role of Supreme Leader. Upon further reading, it seems this is not the case.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not the case but Raisi was considered to be the favorite along with the supreme leaders son in a close second

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, that must be what I was reading and then assumed that the role of president generally improved chances of being selected.

Reading comprehension is cool, kids!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

BBC just reported that Iranian state media has confirmed their deaths:

President Ebrahim Raisi, Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian and several others are confirmed to have been killed in Sunday's helicopter crash in north-western Iran, state TV says.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Why does any country even transport a president by helicopter? Seems needlessly risky, I wouldn't get in one unless it was an emergency.

They're cool as hell, but I still don't trust them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Properly maintained helicopters are safe in safe weather. It was the weather that killed them here. Street traffic presents a lot of security concerns as well.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

If street traffic is a concern, may I suggest you fly at a slightly higher altitude.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The odds of being in a fatal helicopter crash are impossibly small. 0.63 out of 100,000 in the USA

https://www.airmedandrescue.com/latest/news/us-helicopter-accident-rate-analysis

And if you read up on what causes a lot of these fatalities, you see a lot of accidents with pilots and personal aircraft, or pilots trying doing things like high risk medical evacuations.

The chances of dying in a helicopter air taxi are insanely small.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

In the USA. An old helo with questionable access to parts….perhaps lower odds. In bad weather, lower still.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying there's a high chance of foul play!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I don't think this has anything to do with poultry

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

They're probably much safer when you don't buy them from Boeing

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

On the news, they're blaming a lot of things like the weather, sanctions causing Iran to not be able to get adequate repair parts, possible pilot inexperience, amongst other things, but you just know it was Israel.

Iran lobs missles at Israel, and then the Iranian president winds up dead a few weeks later? That's classic Mossad right there.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Honestly it just sounds like the president intentionally ordered the flight to take off when the weather wouldn't have been clear for it and the pilot would in any other circumstances with any other passengers have been able to cancel it outright.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but it was a convoy of 3 helicopters, and the one carrying the president was the only one that didn't make it. So, why was the weather an issue for only that one chopper?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Bad weather isn't a death sentence, it just increases the chances of an accident. Nothing strange about some units making it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

It’s reasonable to imagine.

It’s also reasonable to imagine internal power struggles, or mechanical failure.

Don’t buy anything. We’ll probably never really know.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I can’t wish badly on anyone so I’ll just say this.

That poor helicopter didn’t deserve that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I'll wish badly on them for you then.
Good riddance!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

It was a classic. Should have been in a museum.