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[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (30 children)

Hey, my weekly reminder to tell you that I, a Windows 11 user on five computers without any special tweaks, have never seen a single one of those ads people keep talking about on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Same? I'm really confused which ads they're taking about

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You must be in the B group or something, do you use a Microsoft account to login with or a local user?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Some with and some without Microsoft account

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago

They about to find out the only reason people don't use Linux is because Windows is 'convenient.'

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Damn I'm somewhat indifferent to windows as my main PC os, mostly because I've got all my weird music hardware and a couple of decades worth of plugins working nicely. But this shit is getting annoying, so...

I have extensive experience with Linux on servers and I keep umming and ahhing about switching to it as my main desktop OS—let's see if anyone here is in the venn diagram that can answer this:

I'm a software engineer, all of that is cool, but I'm also pretty into music production

I would need to run Ableton with a Push 3 and Maschine with my M+. I've got simpler controllers like a beatstep pro, but I'm expecting those to be fine. And then would I be able to use my expert sleepers modular interfaces properly? Obviously I want this all with low latency.

After hardware I've got all sorts of vsts across tens of companies, some need my ilok key, I've got my Steinberg stuff too, but they've moved to online licensing finally.

Alternatives to the software are great (I know I can use bitwig natively, for example), but it's a non starter unless I can run it all, I've got years of projects that I would want to be able to open and start messing with the music, rather than spending most of my time messing with the software and losing what inspiration made me open the software in the first place

From someone with experience in this area, how viable is this?

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago

Lol, I don't even use Windows... heh !!!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I use a mixture of Linux and Windows 10 LTSC on my PCs/servers/VMs. I will be the first to admit that Windows does sometimes make sense to use. My desktop PC and my dev environment are both Windows 10.

That being said, what is the advantage in using Windows 11 over 10? As far as I can tell, it's worse in every way. Built-in ads, a crappier UI, forced obsolescence with TPM requirements, and "feature" bloat that nobody asked for.

10 was a clear improvement over 8, but 11 just seems all-around worse.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That being said, what is the advantage in using Windows 11 over 10?

Windows 11 re-introduced Clippy as an emoji:

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

what is the advantage in using Windows 11 over 10?

Many years ago, I was at a Windows XP launch event and the Microsoft Rep had a really honest line:
"Why should you start using Windows XP? Because we're going to stop supporting Windows 98!"

And ya, that's pretty much been the cattle prod Microsoft uses to push new versions, eventually you stop getting security updates for the older OS and at some point there are enough security vulnerabilities which make it no longer safe for daily use. That said, with Windows becoming more and more user hostile, other options start to make more sense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I never upgraded software-wise. Moreso my tech got so outdated that new hardware I'd get (I only use Windows for gaming) would have the latest Windows installed - exactly what Microsoft wants.

I think Proton/Linux in the past year is going to really disrupt that strategy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'd like to hope that by the time Win10 is no longer supported, we have Win12 that doesn't suck. The way things are going, though, I doubt it. I'm expecting that Win10 will be the last version of Windows I use.

I still prefer Windows over Linux for gaming and software development, but everyone has their limit. I am strongly opposed to advertisements, and when I can no longer block ads from my operating system, it's dead to me.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Please microsoft, become the ad platform you're destined to become and give users a reason to move to linux.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Windows: System needs repairing Me: proceeds to install linux mint

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago

When I made this, I did not expect I'd use it much. Then...Windows 11.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Isn't this exactly what got them broken up last time?

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft needs to be broken up.

Any company that can be so blatantly anti consumer and still makes boatloads of money is obviously abusing its dominant position on the market.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Didn't happen with Apple, or IBM, or Google, or Facebook, or....

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't IBM broken up into different hardware and software companies? Or an I thinking of someone else

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Nah that's obvious. There was a major supercomputer company that split up their hardware and software soon after software wasn't strictly for one machine anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

"[...] switching the default search engine back to Bing [...] from Google Search (or whatever other browser is set as default)."

Google is a Browser now, neat. And somehow it's relevant in a post about search engines.

"Microsoft Edge, the default browser pre-installed on Windows machines, and Bing Search aren't bad products by any means - they are solid alternatives to Google's own Chrome and Search."

They may be good compared to Chrome and now also Google. But even rotten eggs are better than literal shit, at least for most people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's because they've integrated it into the start menu. Evil, yes. But technically correct.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

This is the one thing that justfied buying an enterprise licensing model for my C level overlords.

[–] [email protected] 209 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Reclaim your PC. Make it yours once more. Join the penguins.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I finally did this last week, nuked out my Win 11 laptop install and switched to Ubuntu. I have yet to find anything I would need to go back to Windows for.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I dualboot to accommodate a handful of apps. Linux loads up fast and awaits my command once logged in. Meanwhile my pretty much fresh windows build sets my cooling fans on full before I’ve even touch the mouse.

I admit it was a bit of a learning curve getting things set up as I like, but man Linux is such a better experience.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

You might like a VM for Windows instead, so there's no risk of a windows update taking a hammer to your bootloader

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Do you have your fans controlled by the bios or a fan controller?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not op but i personally use a fan controler as on my laptop asus weird overboost system is not very well handled by bios.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I was thinking about desktops, where the fan would be physically plugged into a fan controller instead of into the motherboard. Not sure what that would look like with a laptop.

I was mainly asking because some of those fan controllers default to full on when the usb connection is absent, and Windows doesn't enable all usb connections until after the user logs into the system.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 80 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Idk what I can say about this except "lol"

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My reaction too. Next thing they'll have a hand reach out from the monitor and slap you in the face every time you log on. And people will still put up with it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

A lot of people don’t have a choice

[–] [email protected] -5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Technically speaking noone is restricting you from changing your job/school

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Who is this Noone guy, and why is he restricting everyone's job and school choices?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

spoilersdfsaf

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Actually, those that don't have a choice aren't affected by the enshittification quite as much. This mainly affects the consumers using Windows Home. And those definitely could try something else.

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