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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago

Just shows how much of a mistake pardoning Nixon was the first time. Now there's a precedent for giving Presidents immunity to save face.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

how is this news? we already knew Romney was a turd

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

It may surprise you that a very large number of Republican politicians have spoken ill of Trump in the past, so it always makes it into the news when they flop on the issue and go back to subservience.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ford pardoned Nixon. He didn't get elected to a full term after finishing the remainder of Nixons. We can argue about if the pardon was the final nail in the coffin (The economy shitting the bed didn't help, I'm sure.), but I think we can agree it was definitely one of the nails.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Nixon also resigned. There was no chance of him coming back but it didn’t do anything to convince conservatives in the 70s. The movie Dick is a great primer on how Nixon’s resignation radicalized Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He was talking some sense on his way out, then this. Repubs are incapable of being normal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Right.. he was one of the almost okay ones kind of for a sec at the end.. and that's the best we get

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

With these scumbags, “almost” is meaningless. I never gave Romney the benefit of any doubt because he’s ultimately as awful as any of the feral maga hogs—he wants the same inhuman things they do, he just wants more decorum about it

This does not surprise me one iota

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Presidents should be prosecuted for crimes. They are not Kings and Queens.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

They are not Kings and Queens

I understand the sentiment, but I hate this phrase. If any of the e.g. Scandinavian royals would exhibit this kind of behaviour and lawlessness, the monarchy would be dismantled in a heartbeat. It's mostly for show, and the monarchy only exists for as long as the people want it to.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hell, kings and queens should be prosecuted for crimes

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Louis XVI was prosecuted and found guilty of high treason and crimes against the state by the National Convention during the French revolution, so it does happen from time to time.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Romney again trying to ride both dicks at the same time.

I, for one, am sick of this whole "Oh lets pardon the past president to protect the institution of presidency"

Presidents should not be above the law. They are not gods, they are not kings, they are elected as representatives.

especially when the one in question turned the white house into a goddamn criminal enterprise

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I, for one, am sick of this whole “Oh lets pardon the past president to protect the institution of presidency”

You know how we protect the institution of the presidency? We stop having presidents that break the law.

Agreed. I too am so sick of this ass-kissing authoritarian BS. They’re not kings. They served in an office and now they’re out. They’re humans FFS.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Seriously, I don’t know why so many people get this wrong!

We give guns to our cops to enforce the laws, and we should have higher expectations for the handling of their weapon than random schmuck off the street licensed gun owner.

We give the military and various other resources and powers to the President to execute the laws. They should also be held to an even higher standard! A bad guy as President can do a million times as much damage than they can as a cop.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Agree. These people are given the public trust. betraying the public trust should result in severe punishment. More severe than a random schmuck doing the same act, cause that random schmuck wasnt given the public trust and the power of authority.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But then the people who want to use that public trust for personal gain won't want to run for office! Then what!?!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I know you are joking, but you have no idea how many times i've heard legitimate arguments like that..especially with regards to police.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well, Trump could just try not being a criminal if they care so much about prosecuting an ex-president

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

When you think the law doesn't apply to you then of course you'd think you can do anything you wanted and never be a criminal.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I can see discussion if he committed crimes related to being in office, that time was past, and we wanted the country to move forward, but none of that is true. Trump is finally facing justice for crimes throughout hiss adult life and he’s trying to skip justice to gain the presidency. This is not the Nixon situation. Even worse, Romney reasons it “to be a bigger man”, wtf, this isn’t just play acting as part of the presidential campaign

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

And pardoning Nixon just set the stage for Republicans continuing to commit crimes while or in order to get into office.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

If you want to see how bad stuff gets for someone constantly trying to stay in power to avoid jail time, all you have to do is look at Netanyahu

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago

And that's why you'll never be president.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago

Shut up romney.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You didn't even run, bitch.

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