Can Teams please fuck off and take Outlook with it?
this post was submitted on 13 May 2024
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The only thing worse is New Outlook. They took away all of the power features and a good deal of the customization, and so you are left with something that feels like it was designed for a mobile app while you try to manage thousands of emails.
And they absolutely fucked years and years of security training by fucking with url previews and truncating the front of the url.
What the actual fuck were they thinking?
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I made the mistake of trying to mark 900 unread emails as read
do not do that if you're in a hurry
It's literally their web app put in a Chrome window.
It's outrageous. The Mac version of Outlook is way better, and it's native!!
Not the first time either. Office2004 Mac was ~~peak~~ the last time I remember not hating using any Office app.
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Why do Microsoft have to welcome people to their software? Is it because they otherwise wouldn't feel welcome using it? :P
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MS being sued for packaging something with windows? Haven't we seen this before?
Yes, I'm sure the penalties will be so high as to teach them a lesson they won't forget for decades because that's how good the legal system is in dealing with corporations now.
The early 2000s stuff did end up having some significant effects that lasted for decades.
They've 100% forgotten all about that or think it won't happen again in the last few years, though.
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They should face The Hague for how bad Teams is. Currently I have the "option" to switch to "Classic Teams" (which needed to be a separate application because fuck-knows-why) via a toggle. When I do, it launches Classic Teams and freezes, requires another 2FA approval, or both. Then, it later closes and auto-updates to "New" Teams and I get to do the whole process again. And New 3DS Plus Teams 2024 ME+ Pro U has stupid floaty notifications that take up too much space and annoy me.
Thank you for listening...
My favorite part about New Teams is when it kept telling me I was forced to move from Old Teams to New Teams because our IT department was pushing the update. Cut to everyone in IT being confused as fuck because no they fucking weren't.
I've had to repeatedly switcho "new teams". The selection isn't sticky for some reason. It seems like it shouldn't be that hard to develope a messaging app that does file transfers and meetings but apparently this bloated pile of horseshit proves reason wrong. A second long delay when changing threads? "You'll use it because corporate says you will...and you'll LOVE IT".
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New Teams is about as successful as New Coke!
Teams also sets itself to autostart with Windows, even if you choose not to, or diabale it from the startup manager, it overrides it upon next launch.
It's the only software I've ever seen doing that crime against humanity.
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Oh, don't worry. They're ending support for old teams soon. You won't have a choice anymore.
Not only are new teams notification banners annoying, new teams no longer makes a noise for every single notification, like it used to. I rather have a ding than a banner, especially since I tend to use all of my screen space.
What's even the difference
Honestly I’ve mostly noticed slight UI changes that are worse. Lmao the program seems to run better overall
Edit: it’s the spacing and location. It just feels like they left a lot of dead space instead of cutting that out. Oh. And the thing I hate. When you click on a conversation now it tunnels your vision to only that conversation.
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Iirc support for Classic Teams was dropped in March (or earlier). New Teams is generally less buggy in my experience anyways, and I haven't yet found functionality its lacking. Not sure why you're still presented with the option to drop back, as I don't believe I've seen that toggle in a while
It’s still supported under VDI environments which is why the toggle still exists at all.
Not the best rollout of a MS product but I give them credit for realizing that they needed to switch the underlying code base completely to be more efficient, and actually committing to it.
Oh? It's not a bastardization of Skype for Business (which in turn was a bastardization of Lync) anymore?
Microsoft Team has always been a webapp
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Yeah, I figured it was EOL. But look for the option at the top and the toggle is there, in the current version!
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
According to three people with knowledge of the move, the European Commission is pressing ahead with a formal charge sheet against the world’s most valuable listed tech company over concerns it is restricting competition in the sector.
Microsoft last month offered concessions as it sought to avoid regulatory action, including extending a plan to unbundle Teams from other software such as Office, not just in Europe but across the world.
The EU then issued a 561 million euro fine against Microsoft for failure to comply with a decision over the bundling of the Internet Explorer browser with its Windows operating system.
The company declined to comment but referred to an earlier statement that said it would “continue to engage with the commission, listen to concerns in the marketplace, and remain open to exploring pragmatic solutions that benefit both customers and developers in Europe.”
Microsoft is also part of a handful of tech companies, including Google and Meta, caught as “gatekeepers” under the new Digital Markets Act, meaning it has special responsibilities when trading in Europe.
The tech company has also faced complaints from European cloud computing providers that are concerned that Microsoft is abusing its dominant position in the sector to force users to buy its products and squashing competition from smaller start-ups in Europe.
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