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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

In ancient Greece. The concept of beauty was so ingrained in the hearts of people. That no matter how poor you were - no matter how long the seigh of a city lasted. No one stole the gold that was on the statues located around town. Because to the Greek, beauty WAS life.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Seems like a real good reason to get independent and start doing things for passion instead of for money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Only issue is you can't eat passion or use it to protect you from the elements. The idea of doing something for passion while tangentially making just enough money to support yourself is and always was a lie under a capitalist system. If we want to do that, we need to change the system first.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

Doing the math, if you took the wealth of the top 10 people and divided it up among the world's population, everyone would get 153 dollars.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Put a cleaning robot in a public space, and count the number of hours until it's been vandalized.

Those kinds of people are a major contributor too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

At the risk of sounding like a class reductionist (I'm not), even things like racism and LGBTphobia are exacerbated by this, because the only reason we don't just eat those ten guys is we're always hating each other. The reason there's so much racism in the US, for example, has a lot to do with slavery -- and guess who benefitted from slavery? Guess who benefitted from the genocide against Native Americans? Who benefits most from calling refugees and undocumented workers "illegal immigrants"?

It's not me. If you're reading this, it's probably not you. It hurts us. It hurts our communities, while these ten people keep brainwashing us into actually defending them and their system while hating each other.

(Ok now I'm going to have my coffee, and I wish to the gods that I could disable inbox notifications after posting this.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." -- Lyndon Johnson

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

This is very class reductionist. Rich people are still hurt by bigotry, especially celebrities. Not every rich person is a cis, hetero, white, man.

These issues predate capitalism. Not making full use of minorities and oppressed people actually hurts the capitalist economy especially in terms of innovation. It would be much more efficient for the rich if everyone were giving their best.

These divisions are far from the only reason people don't turn on the rich. People just don't support socialism and I can see why. Things like the USSR and China are what happened when marxism was tried. We need to come up with better economic and political systems that actually work if we want to get anywhere. We then need to remove the stains these previous systems caused. I don't think that's gonna happen with the current crop of leftists as they are idealists still using 100s of years old ideologies.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Won't somebody PLEASE think of the rich???

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

You don't understand what I am saying do you? These issues predate the rich people we have now, and even hurt some of them. Billionaires are still bad people, but they aren't the only problematic people in societies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Try to mention that the majority of landlords who go around fixing shit all day are struggling just as much you will get you hung around here.

Mention that the uberrich are the ones behind those firms buying up houses and they want you blaming that 70 year old still fixing shit instead of them.

People are blind to so much shit sometimes and the pendulum swing in other directions like ACAB suddenly being pushed by a bunch of people who couldn't speak English is the cherry on top to realizing so many people on the left are just as easily swayed as the people being grifted the right.

E: I'd like to see what people think are acceptable amounts of property ownership. Each person gets to own a single property? So I can own two properties and rent one if me and my partner each own, right? I wonder how far housing Co-ops can work.

Anyone in a committed relationship should be able to rent a single property. Nothing guarantees that we won't break up, so they will need to keep something just in case. It's also emergency funds for if we lose everything in the stock and people realize the Stock Market doesn't work without the very thing people thing are arguing against. Unsustainable capitalism. What else do people do then? Go full Ron Swanson and put it all into shiny metal and bury it lol?

Until people start unionizing to the point where people don't require their work to put into their retirement and get paid enough to actually save so they can't generate money from hoarding, then you'll need stock. You'll need diverse portfolios which include property ownership.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

For fixing shit, there are plumbers and electricians and carpenters. They are workers.

Landlord earns money not from fixing, but from renting out a house first and foremost. And this is a passive income, or, to put otherwise, exploiting a resource and dragging money from something that doesn't produce anything for society.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

Won't somebody PLEASE think of the slumlords!!!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Landlords are not a special case. If you don't like your job you can quit. Sell the property if it is such a burden.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That's the point, they often can't because unlike you and the other people putting money into the magic money making machine which requires unsustainable growth based GDP to work, aka the stock market, they put theirs into equity.

Selling 1-2 houses for $150,000 isn't going to let them retire lol. They also bought houses for generational income so they can gift them to their children or grandchildren.

And just like the reactionary fun both of you are going with, you pretend like it's still not a class issue lol.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

the majority of landlords who go around fixing shit all day are struggling just as much you

Nah, this ain't it, chief. They're not struggling like me, and they're exploiting a resource that should be a basic human right for profit. For every landlord who's tRyInG tO pAy MoM's NuRsInG hOmE fEeS, there are multiple tenants who can't because they're being sucked dry by these vampires.

People can fix shit without exploiting housing.

Edit: YIKES I just saw your username. Blocked, blocked, BLOCKED! Holy fucking shit!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

As I've said, the death of nuance lol.

You're welcome to google the name and find out blankets with smallpox was never a thing though!

E: You're also welcome to read any number of my well sourced comments or discussions about landlords and class warfare elsewhere.