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This is quite exciting in that it removes plastic waste. I see no reason why different companies can't make different shape ones to maintain their lock-in. I expect a knock-off market to pop-up, but that exists with plastic pods too. It's a step in the right direction at least.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In Switzerland we got something similar, it's little balls though. It comes packaged in cardboard and you can compost the remains https://www.coffeeb.com/en-ch

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh, cool! How's the coffee?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's actually pretty good, don't own a machine but have tried it a couple times. It's also comparable in cost to normal capsules.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Keurigs taste like trash though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (5 children)

For real? I never drink coffee outside of the very rare frappuccino.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Just to be clear, it was always "finally" able to be sustainable - it just wasn't profitable.

Now that they've saturated the market with makers they can "finally" keep the profits rolling with something that kills the planet less.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I solved this problem by not drinking coffee. I know, it's blasphemy I don't need daily caffeine to function.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Never had coffee in my entire life and feel like I'm the least tired person of my social circle. Caffeine is definitely not a must. It only becomes one once you consume it regularly.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

For fast easy machine single-serve, get a machine that takes beans. They cost about three pod-machines but they're worth it. The pod-machines are cheaper because they come with vendor lock-in for the pods, and make worse coffee.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's not as convenient, but a moka pot makes the best single serving coffee I've experienced. You can get a small version for less than $30. It takes me less than 5 minutes to make a barista level cup, and even the more expensive coffee is going to cost less than 50 cents per serving.

The only downside is the coffee is highly caffeinated--nearly espresso levels. So you're forced to add water if you just want a "cup" of coffee and it's more of an Americano-style. But the taste beats the shit out of drip or Keurig cups...imo.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Ah a fellow moka pot enthusiast! You tell 'em!

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Do you have any recommendations for a specific brand?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Personally I would always recommend a ‘Sage’ or in the US ‘Breville’ Barista Express. Regularly on sale on Amazon on Black Friday or whatever but easy to setup and use for someone with no experience and simple to use daily. Was always rated as one of the best consumer espresso machines on the market.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've been using a Barista Express for a few years and it's been great. The only issue I've had is having to replace the gasket at the head(?) because it kept blowing out (10 minute job with an aftermarket replacement from Amazon). Other than that, it makes pretty good coffee and I can use whatever coffee beans I feel like.

Just get a decent coffee scale, dial it in a bit and you're good to go.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

If you are blowing the seal around the shower head, it is usually because you are locking the portafilter in too tightly. It doesn’t actually need to be fully locked right over. But yeah it’s an easy fix. My issue with the sage is that it starts the slippery slope of realising what good coffee is and then you need better beans and a better this and that. The sage is an amazing piece of equipment, well made and will last years and years being reliable and consistent.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

I have a de longhi. It grinds the beans into a coffee maker handle and then it makes espresso. There is another brand that also has something similar. It works great.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

“Sustainable”

Coffee can, single piece of packaging for months on end.

Vs.

K-cups, paper, dyes, increased packaging volumes, increased energy in production, increased raw materials, 6 month shelf life = increased trips to the store to purchase more. Sustainable /s

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you're playing that game, you don't need any coffee at all, so none of it is sustainable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I mean, it's a plant. You can grow it, and plenty of it is grown. It is objectively more sustainable than, say, coal or helium.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

How does the coffee get from where it's grown and into the can? Where does the space to grow it come from?

Also, what are you talking about? Helium's uses are largely medical, which is pretty far up there on the list of things we can't do without.

Also, so what? These new coffee pods are also more sustainable than both helium and coal when you use whatever definition of sustainability you're using

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Huh? Your response doesn't make sense. Were you intentionally ignoring the point of the op: coffee is more sustainable than non-renewable resources?

That's like saying sunshine is free and then somebody trying to argue against that point but criticizing the price of sunscreen ...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yes because it doesn't make any sense. Not only is the coffee industry not really all that sustainable, it's completely meaningless to compare two types of resource in entirely different categories.

It doesn't matter how "unsustainable" a medically necessary resource like helium is in comparison to literally any amount of environmental or social damage caused by the persuit of a luxury good.

Also, as a rebuttal to a rebuttal to the idea that canned coffee is still better it doesn't make any sense, because the logic that "coal isn't sustainable" could justify literally any amount of ecological damage in the coffee supply chain, thereby justifying the pods. You could chop down and burn a tree for every sack of coffee you fill, for fun, and it still probably wouldn't be as unsustainable as coal.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Fresh account and hardcore supporting an obvious marketing “news” article. Hmm…

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Me: no coffee is environmentally sustainable or a necessity

You: damn they must be shilling for big coffee

Also you realise the fediverse isn't large enough to justify marketing on, right?

My highest rated comment is literally condoning videogame piracy. Did you think that accusation through at all? I'm honestly baffled.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Please dont't brew up coal or helium for breakfast.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But how will I make squeaky talk while enjoying my deep fried coal?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

A Welshman and a Scotsman meet on a blimp and devise the stupidest idea for a gastropub...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I just use the resuable pods. Can throw any coffee grounds in them, dump them in the compost when done, rise, and use again. Have used these for at least 5 years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

So that's just using a normal coffeemaker basically - putting ground coffee in a filter.

I just use a normal coffeemaker, with good coffee. Keurigs are a scam IMO. It's really not hard to learn how much water to pour in and coffee scoops to put into the filter to make a small pot of coffee. Cone filter style is better than the basket style for that and for taste

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

When you say “normal coffee maker“ are you just referring to a drip/pot? Because honestly, Keurigs take up less space and require less work so if you’re going to do the drip coffee route, then you may as well just do Keurig (sustainably). The results are basically the same.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Lol, basically. But it lets me fill up the pods and use it in either my single-cup coffee maker or take it to the office and put it into the Keurig there.

I guess there's the benefit that it doesn't require a disposable paper filter, though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The biggest area this will be a win in is offices. Areas where groups of different people with different tastes gather and can pick a coffee that’s better suited to their taste. Having reusable k pods is nice, but when people don’t frequently work in there, or don’t realize a keurig is available they might not have one. Although I V60 everyday so this has no real personal impact.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Areas where groups of different people with different tastes gather and can pick a coffee that’s better suited to their taste.

Also places where people have different concepts of cleanliness

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Flashbacks of the mold infested coffee machine in my first office that just stood there for half a year with the old grounds still inside. Everyone ignored it and made coffee downstairs where someone else had to clean it 🤢

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's exactly what happened at my office. The moldy coffee pot stayed there for about a year before someone threw the whole thing away.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

We did the same. Taped it all together and carried it like it was a live bomb.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

True. In my office, they provided a Keurig but you had to bring your own pods. I'd just fill up 2 or 3 of my reusable ones and bring those with me, but your point is definitely valid (especially for offices that provide coffee pods).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (5 children)

This might be a really stupid question, but if you're going to use reusable pods, why not just... Use a classic Mr. Coffee-style coffee maker that has been around for decades?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Cause a k cup is pretty convenient if you just want a cup and don't want to clean the pot regularly. The main drawback is the actual leftover k cup, if it was made out of some thing that would decompose it would be a lot better for the environment. Not saying that the Mr. Coffee isn't cheaper, but I'm not paying for the coffee, so convenience ranks higher on most priority lists.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Because Jill in accounting has no clue how to make coffee, yet always gets to the coffee pot first.

This see-through abomination was the final straw before I switched to using the office keurig.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

That's some sparkling coffee if I've ever seen it lmao, did they throw out 3 pots first before using the same grounds for that pot?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

I've got two: One Keurig which was a gift and an off-brand single-cup coffee maker that uses pods. I'm the only coffee drinker in the house, so one cup at a time is about right (and uses less energy than keeping a carafe warm all morning).

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That has always been my issue with the K cup. It is recyclable and isn't biodegradable.

I want a pod I can throw in the mulch.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's at least one company that makes compostable pods, I don't remember the name, but my roommate used to get them all the time

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I avoid k pods when I can for that reason. It’s expensive and they just take up landfill space.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Not sure if you misread my comment, but I'm saying there's at least one brand of pods that you can compost

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