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Because Boeing were on such a good streak already...

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I feel uncomfortable as a taxpayer having inadvertently supported Boeing and they are literally falling apart.

You think Airbus is gonna expand its capacity to build even more planes?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Boeing laid off about 900 QA people back in 2019. Now they are reaping the rewards

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Elsewhere: Airbus Christmas party budget doubles.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which, as we know, is not supposed to happen.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wasn't it built so that the nose wheel wouldn't fall off?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That design choice was revolutionary at the time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know where to put it but here's about MCAS anyway, the cost-cutting system meant to keep Boeing in the game, but also took over flight controls sometimes and nose dived planes straight into the ground, causing hundreds (some say thousands!) of fatalities:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maneuvering_Characteristics_Augmentation_System

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Between door bolts missing, virgin airlines missing wing bolts, this nose wheel, etc

It almost feels like some kind of related systemic error in the very thorough maintenance documentation required for aircrafts, or a large scale sabotage of some sort.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

How is this Boeings issue? This is a maintenance problem with the airline. Tires get replaced by maintenance staff. That plane isn’t brand new.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Careful. Boeing already tried the “but it’s not our job” excuse on a few major incidences with an executive now locked behind bars after pushing bribes to cover it up . They’d be best backing off on taking an attitude about where to assign blame. They got a lot of red spots that will never come out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I remember watching this PBS Frontline segment on plane maintenance 10 years or so ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw0b020OFj4

I imagine we still have those problems and the recent news of counterfeit parts entering the market is scary.

Good thing these recent incidents ended up with no serious injuries or death. Perhaps this timing is good in some really weird way as the Supreme Court starts considering powers of regulatory agencies and concerns around government funding to highlight the importance and need for this government role.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, if proper maintenance was done and the part still failed due to a design or quality issue that was improperly QC’d (missed, skipped, etc) then yeah it could be Boeings fault.

They’re getting extra scrutiny right now because of all the incidents recently, and all the anecdotal stories of former employees talking about how a bunch of suits are destroying it from the inside to make a quick buck.

And frankly, they fucking deserve it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Clickbait. The FAA lists the plane number as N672DL and a quick flight registry check says that plane was made in 1992. This is a maintenance issue with Delta.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The title is "Nose wheel falls off Boeing 757 airliner waiting for takeoff" and that's exactly what happened. That's not clickbait, since it's not deceptive, sensationalized, or otherwise misleading. It's just news.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You say and yet we both know if the headline was "nose wheel falls off Delta jet waiting to take off" it'd be identically accurate but would mean something else entirely

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the front fell off, you say?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not supposed to do that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh it's very unusual!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Working for Boeings PR department must be absolute madness right now… imagine having to somehow excuse all those fuck ups and every week there is a new one

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except this one isn't even a Boeing issue - this is a plane Delta has operated since 1992. This is entirely Delta's maintenance's fault. Boeing will still get blamed for it, of course.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know, but no one cares who’s responsible at the moment. What people care about is that they read a new article about Boeings planes endangering passengers every 3 days. So while Delta is most likely at fault, Boeing is gonna take the hit to the company image. That’s why I was specifically speaking about the Boeing PR team. Those guys and the crisis managers won’t be able to catch a break for a loooong time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The company is still worth over 100 billions. They do something right.

Otherwise I agree with you. It's almost hilarious to see fail after fail (as long as you are not in the plane).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What they do right is having a duopoly with Airbus, and great military contracts. So investors know that even if things are shit rn, they will probably get better again.

Furthermore, while I agree that Boeing probably will not go bankrupt over this, the valuation sometimes is not a great indicator of what’s going on internally. Enron was worth over 60 billion. Half a year later they were at zero. Now I’m not saying Boeing is nearly that bad, but they are in some trouble for sure.