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All trials should be available to the public (video, transcript, etc). Body cams on cops and court cameras, transparency is necessary for justice.
Oh no. .. have his attorneys missed the point of the trial too?
No, they are confusing the issue so the jurors won;t know what he was really accused of. Their best tactic, and one that could very well pay off for them, sadly. Jury trials are a joke.
The judge and the prosecutors ought not to have too big issues with explaining this though right?
I'm not a legal expert but I wonder if the defense can actually object to that as they'll see it as pressing the jury to make a judgment framed in a specific way.
WTH...
I think they're confusing democracy from capitalism
Im I wrong to think that we (the media) should stop calling it a "hush-money" case? I think its a poor move to put more focus on the moral issues of him spending a night with a porn star and paying them to keep quiet than to focus on the fact that he falsified business records to save face during a presidential campaign.
I don't tend to mind the "hush money" framing, since that makes him sound like the mobster that he definitely is.
No...and it's like Trump already won the court of opinion due to it. It's terrible messaging.
No one really cares that he banged a prostitute. Clinton was all over that too...We DO care that he committed fraud.
But reading through this...well...who cares really: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/22/trump-hush-money-trial-charges/
Instead of framing this as Trump is a terrible person who did terrible things, it's worded like he tripped on a very complex piece of legislature.
TL;DR: You made an important point.
Yes, let's talk upfront about how the system is failing.
We’re at step 1
The problem is the falsifying records to hide the payments
I'm pretty sure we're way further down that list
It jumps around a lot
It's more of a circle really
meanwhile, the ex-president can't attend the hearing on the unlicensed bond he claimed to secure for the nine-figure fraud judgment against him because he's in a different court on trial for charges of criminal falsification of records to influence an election
Just like corporate donations are "speech". Some Citizens United logic here.
"Democracy is when you give money to porn stars" - Julius Ceasar
Mentioned it to his best friend, Brutus, as he was crossing the Rubicon.
When you give money to cover up a time when you awkwardly, briefly, floundered your body on a sex worker.
One of the best parts of this story is Mr Art of the Deal, the master negotiator payed a porn star to keep quiet and she wrote book.
I like this take
Remember when Bill Clinton was impeached for lying about sex?
It's not about the sex it's about the lies.
Like I personally don't give a shit that Clinton had sex with an intern. If it was all informed and consensual, that should between them and his wife. Same for any president. If Biden or Trump wants someone to give him a blow job in the oval office, go for it. I genuinely don't care how the president gets their rocks off, as long as it's not illegal or rape.
But the fact that its considered bad to have sex in puritanical society, they have to lie and now its a perjury case. It's weird how we can impeach a president for lying about getting a blowjob, but we can't stop an orange fucker for making a riot happen in the capitol.
Maybe this is me starting to be mentally coherent during the second term of Dubya, but Jesus Christ. You can lock kids in cages and no one gives a shit, you can start an attempt at a coup, and almost nothing happens. But somehow a blowjob was a major scandal that harmed the next election because your VP is running.
It's not democracy, but pay for play, hush money, and an overall culture of bribery is more American than apple pie ever was.
The prominence of Trump is just a symptom of America's long running greed disease of putting capital miles above people.
If we had altered our economy and culture not to worship at the alter of sociopathic avarice and reckless growth/metastasis, Donald Trump would have gone to jail before he was a game show host, let alone POTUS.
I'm voting for Biden to keep my conscience clean but without hope, because the sad truth is, Donald Trump absolutely represents what America is in all it's grotesque, sociopathic, schadenfreude reveling, toxic hyper-individualistic, inhuman glory.
He's like a cartoon embodiment of who we actually are as a society in practice, and why I can't stand this place, a nepo-wealth bully obsessed with wealth hoarding that's got his, knows that means he makes the rules, and fuck you 🇺🇸