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Never thought I'd see the 'cycle of abuse' play out with the fucking Holocaust, jfc
Reminder that even West Bank children who couldn't possibly have any link to Hamas get thrown in jail, by incarcerators able to do whatever the fuck they want because, as they're jailing people outside of their jurisdiction, and the Palestinian Authority has no means to stop it, they don't have to answer to anyone.
Just thought you would appreciate the context.
Soon they'll start sending them to the showers. We've seen this before. Fascists never change
Fascists gonna fascist.
That's hardly a good reason to tolerate scum like these anymore.
What are you some kind of antifa-cist‽
How do they define security prisoners in this context? Is this Gitmo or Aushwitz? Both are war crimes.
Also, you would think these Israeli leaders would be more careful about using the word solution in the context of murdering the fuck out of your political prisoners.
Since Palestinians have no human or civil rights under Israeli Occupation, they can be detained and convicted with no to little evidence. Subject only to military courts they have no fair trial and it's quite normal to coerce (false) confessions. This includes children.
Military Courts - B'TSelem
Israel/OPT: Horrifying cases of torture and degrading treatment of Palestinian detainees amid spike in arbitrary arrests - Amnesty International
After spending the morning reading about the history of Zionism and direct quotes from a bunch of those dudes, honestly, your comment sounds like everything is going exactly to plan.
'In 1938, Ben Gurion described the conflict with the Arabs as "in its essence a political one... politically we are the aggressors and they [the Arabs] defend themselves." Israeli historian Benny Morris affirms Ben Gurion's description, saying: "Ben-Gurion, of course, was right" and goes on to describe Zionism as "a colonizing and expansionist ideology and movement" whose "ideology and practice were necessarily and elementally expansionist." Morris describes the Zionist goal of establishing a Jewish state in Palestine as necessarily displacing and dispossessing the Arab population. The practical issue of establishing a Jewish state in a majority non-Jewish and Arab region was a fundamental issue for the Zionist movement. Revisionist Zionist Ze'ev Jabotinsky described the notion of "transfer" (the Zionist euphemism for ethnic cleansing of the Arab Palestinian population) as a "brutal expulsion" which could resolve this challenge. The idea of transfer was not unique to Revisionist Zionism, in fact, as explained by Morris, "the idea of transferring the Arabs out... was seen as the chief means of assuring the stability of the 'Jewishness' of the proposed Jewish State".
According to Morris, the idea of ethnically cleansing the land of Palestine was to play a large role in Zionist ideology from the inception of the movement. He explains that "transfer" was "inevitable and inbuilt into Zionism" and that a land which was primarily Arab could not be transformed into a Jewish state without displacing the Arab population. Further, the stability of the Jewish state could not be ensured given the Arab population's fear of displacement. He explains that this would be the primary source of conflict between the Zionist movement and the Arab population.'
Mind you, that's Wikipedia, but none the less.
Yeah, Transfer has been part of Zionism since 1882. Books by New Historians definitely go into much more detail and sources than any news article.
The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948 - Nur Masalha
A History of Modern Palestine - Ilan Pappe
The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine - Ilan Pappe
The Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of the Occupied Territories - Ilan Pappe
The 1967 Arab-Israeli War: Origins and Consequences - Avi Shlaim
The Gaza Strip: The Political Economy of De-development - Sara Roy
Closer to Gitmo, in that a percentage of the prisoners are actually a threat to "peace" and have committed various crimes. Also like Gitmo a percentage are only in there because their neighbor wanted to steal their land.
We will never even know if anyone in Guantanamo is even a terrorist though.
You just assume they are because that's what Rumsfeld and Cheney told you.
But without due process there's no actual way of determining it.
But when I compare this genocide to the Holocaust I get called an antisemite
those people are saying that in bad faith. they're wiping their asses with the memory of the holocaust, not you
I'm sure the end solution to this problem will be as cheap and efficient as zyklon-b.
The answer to prison/jail overcrowding is to release prisoners. Allways. If you're imprisoning so many people that you can't actually hold all of them, you're imprisoning too many people.
And the answer to vacant cells is to congragulate the population on their low crime rate, but the for profit system in the US just finds reasons to put more people in jail and keep them there longer.
We've started going full death camp yet people still don't believe that there's a genocide. There are no words to describe just how truly disgusting that is.
He even used the word solution. They don’t even give a fuck anymore
What a dick.
A dick is a person who steals candies from kids. This one doesn't qualify. He is one among the worst human beings possible.
I wonder if they will concentrate all of the prisoners in one spot before they implement Ben’s solution
They will if they're from his camp
He just wants a bit more Living Space.
בית גידול?
When the Nazis were invading Eastern Europe prior to WWII they told the other European powers they only needed “lebensraum”-“living space.” This comment thread is pointing out the similarities between the actions of contemporary Israel against Palestinians with the actions of Nazi Germany against Jews and other groups they considered “undesirable.”
I know very well what it is. I just wrote the same thing in Hebrew. Why translate Lebensraum to Living Space instead of בית גידול?
I can’t read Hebrew and it got translated to “habitat.” I assumed the question mark indicated a genuine request for clarity.
Me neither. One translator gave me that word.
Another gives me גידו.
Just want to add that I'm a native German speaker as well.
With so many prisoners it's gotta be hard to process all of those death penalties. I wonder if there is a fast and efficient way to apply the death penalty. Maybe they can do it in groups
Everyone knows that gases are the most convenient option, too. None of the logistical issues of solids and none of the messiness of liquids.
They could look into repurposing farming equipment and supplies given all the shortages they’re experiencing