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Donald Trump doesn’t easily forgive or forget.

As Trump’s Republican allies in the United States Congress block military aid that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says Kyiv desperately needs to avoid defeat in its war with invading Russian forces, it’s clear the former U.S. president’s ill will toward Ukraine has deep roots. 

It was, after all, a phone call with Zelenskyy that led to Trump’s first impeachment in December 2019, after he was accused of seeking to influence the 2020 election by leaning on the Ukrainian leader to investigate current President Joe Biden and his son Hunter. 

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

It always comes back to his own bullshit ego

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

He hates ukraine because zelensky was always interupting when he was enjoying sucking putins cock.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

More specifically: he is furious with Zelensky and Ukraine for not letting him use them as a bargaining chip. Trump cannot fucking fathom how someone he sees as less powerful than himself can defy him on anything.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Kompromat, that's all there is to it.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He hates Ukraine because his boss manipulated him into hating Ukraine. That’s what happens when you put egomaniacal, mentally defective degenerates - i.e., 99.99999% of the republican party - in charge of anything. They’re fucking tools.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think he hates Ukraine because they had the balls to stand up to russia and trump is too much of a pussy, so he's jealous.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Absolutely, I wasn't saying the top poster was wrong, but just giving my two cents.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

That's a very long-winded way of saying Trump is in Russia's pocket and didn't like Biden's interference in Russian-driven corruption in Ukraine ahead of their invasion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Trump, man up to your own shortfalls.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

If that was ever even close to working we wouldn't be here at all

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Bc he is a dumb and petty baby.

[–] [email protected] 114 points 7 months ago

Whatever. He's been a Russian asset since the mid 80's.

Tried to win the Presidency as a Democrat & when Putin finally realized the GOP was the US party that was actually for sale, switched to the GOP.

He works for Putin, not us.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Unfortunately, this knuckle-dragger is not capable of admitting, perhaps even understanding, that he brought all of this on himself. Everything bad that happens to him is someone else's fault. Everything good that happens was his idea.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Can't blame him for thinking there's no consequences for doing crimes because he's been getting away with that for 70 years with very little consequence. It's really an indictment of the justice system that he (and thousands of guys like him) have been getting away with shit for so long.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

That's just garden-variety narcissism, and Trump is definitely a narcissist.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He is Eric Cartman, but like one that is on uppers AND downers

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

To be fair to Cartman, he's been shown to have the capacity to grow into a decent person under the right circumstances. Trump on the other hand will almost certainly always be Trump no matter the timeline

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

To be fair to Cartman, he's been shown to have the capacity to grow into a decent person under the right circumstances.

Such as? The only times I can think of was when Cesar Milan "trained" him and he was ultimately only behaving to continue to manipulate his mum in future, and when they convinced him he was dead, where it was like 90% him responding to the lack of attention.

The covid one when they're adults maybe? Can't remember if he was lying/had an ulterior motive by the end of the episode

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Rabbi Cartman is the biggest example yeah. He does revert to his old ways somewhat, but only when he finds out the other guys are planning to essentially murder his family and everyone else in their timeline. Granted they plan to do that so their alternate universe clones can live in a world less devastated by the pandemic, and he does eventually agree to sacrifice them for a small chance of gaining them again but a large chance of a better world (possibly for his clone to be tormented by echoes of memories, the alternate Stan seems to subconsciously remember that Shelly died in the original timeline).

We didn't see much of him but the Cartman who ran an actual time travel company in the episode about the fake one seemed a decent dude, but made the mistake of talking to his younger self who hadn't had the growth yet so he decides to spite himself to make sure he never comes to be

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes, these are the textbook symptoms of a textbook narcissist. Incapable of empathy. Basically an unfillable hole that will pull in and destroy anyone around them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


It was, after all, a phone call with Zelenskyy that led to Trump’s first impeachment in December 2019, after he was accused of seeking to influence the 2020 election by leaning on the Ukrainian leader to investigate current President Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

“It was impossible to prove the authenticity of the signature next to Manafort’s name in the ledger,” said Yuriy Lutsenko, a former prosecutor general who for a time supported Trump’s efforts to open a corruption investigation into Hunter Biden.

Trump’s July 2019 phone call with Zelenskyy would play a central role in one of the most embarrassing episodes in his political career: his first impeachment, which stemmed from his effort to pressure Ukraine’s president to open an investigation into Biden.

The catalyst was a video in which then-Vice President Joe Biden described how in 2016 he had threatened to withhold funds from Ukraine’s then-President Petro Poroshenko if Kyiv didn’t fire a prosecutor.

While Biden did seek Shokin’s removal, it was as part of a coordinated effort with the U.S. State Department and the European Union over concerns the prosecutor was blocking corruption investigations in the country.

“I don’t believe anybody who represents the party of Ronald Reagan will abandon Ukraine,” Andriy Yermak, the head of Zelenskyy’s office, told POLITICO earlier this month.


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