Whoever made this meme may need to brush up on what a binary choice is. I think we've had enough of people voting off their nose to spite their face.
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what does any of this mean lol? nyc, dem, dnc, vote blue? wtf
because the one who won the primaries isn't the one who the dnc actually likes. dnc establishment is thinking of having cuomo running as an independent against him. so, 'vote blue no matter who' has now been turned around on those jackasses who kept shoving shit condidates down our throats.
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Didn't the democratic party in America like completely die with president Orange?
Nah. We’re taking it over. Thirty years of retirees picking our candidates in the primaries gave us the centrist party. People are finally waking up and turning out.
It should have with the performance it gave. But alas the duopoly goes on
I disagree, I think the democratic party will become as relevant as the Whig party And the Republican party is going to split in two the Trump side and Republican Classic.
Fuck, this is so much more likely
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Apparently some need education on what a primary is.
They were all running to “be the blue.” This is how WE pick the candidates that run for the Democratic Party. Yes. That’s right. They’re not selected by the DNC as many believe.
Congressional primaries see less than 15% turnout, yet people love to complain about the career centrists. Well, this is EXACTLY how it’s done.
Mamdani won because WE SHOWED UP. Stop letting retirees with nothing but time on their hands pick our candidates and VOTE FOR PROGRESSIVES IN THE PRIMARIES.
I suppose we’ll see if the DNC takes the message this time.
They don’t “take the message.” It’s not a suggestion. They run a primary and we select their nomination. That’s what primary elections are. Have you never voted in a primary before?
I’ve voted in primaries for over 20 years. I know how politics work. Don’t be so naive
Ok. Give me some examples of candidates winning the Democratic primary and getting dropped off the ballot by the DNC.
It's not about being dropped, it's about the cash not coming from the DNC, and then other DNC allies contributing to the independent candidate. Mamdani will be the (D) on the ballot. It does not mean that the DNC will give him one cent if they don't like his politics.
Seems like people are talking past each other here. He will be representing the DNC on the ticket, and the DNC is likely to provide absolutely no support to him, as he doesn't match what "they" "wanted".
They aren’t required to fund him, that’s true, but all campaign donations from the DNC are transparent. They also can’t stop him from fundraising directly. If he makes it clear that they are withholding financial support given to prior candidates, then people will donate to him directly and the DNC will be publicly called out for favoring past candidates. That’s the last thing they need after the Debbie Wasserman-Shultz/Hillary Clinton scandal.
Being on the ballot means little in and of itself. Having the party apparatus behind you is what matters. You don't need to win the primary to get on the ballot.
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The joke is that the NYC Dems are making the DNC eat their words with a candidate that they didn't want
Oh I totally missed that. Thanks. Too many people still ignorantly commenting about how the DNC picks all the candidates, after NYC just proved that it’s always been about us showing up, has me on the defense. My bad.
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I think you're missing the joke here?
Isn’t this how change happens?
But voting for who you believe in in the primaries and your preferred party in the general?
It's never worked so far, I don't see why the DNC is about to start.
The DNC doesn’t pick the candidates. We do. In the primaries. That’s what primaries are.
😂😂😂 “The DNC doesn’t pick the candidates.” 🤣🤣🤣
Does anyone else remember the primary we didn’t have for the 2024 election? Or how about how dirty they did our boy Bernie in 2016? Or how about the fact that you can’t even run as a Democrat unless you bring them at least $1m in fundraising?
We had a primary in 2024. He stepped down after winning. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and Hillary Clinton’s collusion was reprehensible, and also extremely rare.
I’m also referring to the congressional and state primaries that only see 15% attendance, yet you, like most Americans, think we only vote once every four years.
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Winning the primary =/= actually getting the support of the party apparatus behind you.
They aren’t required to fund him, that’s true, but all campaign donations from the DNC are transparent. He can compare his support to Adams’ 2021 purse. They also can’t stop him from fundraising directly.
If he makes it clear that they are withholding financial support given to prior candidates, then people will donate to him directly, and the DNC will be publicly called out for favoring past candidates. That’s the last thing they need after the Debbie Wasserman-Shultz/Hillary Clinton scandal.
If he makes it clear that they are withholding financial support given to prior candidates, then people will donate to him directly, and the DNC will be publicly called out for favoring past candidates. That’s the last thing they need after the Debbie Wasserman-Shultz/Hillary Clinton scandal.
I really don't think they care. These people have no shame. I read that 40% of the leading Democrats that endorsed Cuomo had previously called for his resignation after his numerous sexual assaults came to light. The party that lauds itself as the champion of and defender of women's and minority rights rallied hard to support a corrupt sexual predator over a Muslim, simply because he was progressive instead of a conservative. Hell, arch sex pest Bill Clinton endorsed Cuomo.
These people have no shame. "Calling people out" or "slamming" people means nothing. If calling people out changed their behavior, Cuomo, who sexually assaulted at least a dozen women, would have never been seen in public again.
Seriously. How can you think that leaders that openly endorse a sexual molester give a single fuck about being called out publicly for their bad behavior?
They may have no shame, but Zohran has no chill. We’ll find out soon enough.
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The problem isn't the "DNC" it's the Democratic establishment. That includes all their operatives in media that help keep the masses in check. The sad fact is that not enough voters pay that much attention. The vast majority of the time, the establishment gets their pick.
They don’t get their pick. The relentless retirees do, if the working class doesn’t participate in the primaries. I’ve volunteered many times over the last 25 years. The elderly come in droves. They also have very different needs than the working class.
Congressional primaries see less than 15% turnout. The 2025 NYC Mayoral Democratic primary saw 30%, up from 21% in 2021. That’s all it took to make a difference.
This is something voters need to own. Sign up for mailers if you forget to vote. Sign up for mail-in ballots if you have an irregular schedule. Research the candidates in the primary and vote.
You're not wrong, but where do the retirees get their news? Most of the retirees I know are all way to manipulated by cable news, and that is nothing but 24x7 establishment propaganda.
Absolutely. They also have no need to vote in favor of minimum wage increases or any other benefits for the working class. Their biggest concern is low taxes on their retirement accounts, which is why they pick the centrist Democrat when voting in the Democratic primary.
That's part of it, but not everything. In the 2020 presidential primary the number one issue for everyone, including seniors, was electability. Beating Trump was what Democratic voters cared about, and cable news blared the false but believable message that only a centrist who could capture Republican votes could do that.
Another big issue is, oddly enough, minority voters. Minorities are not all that different from other populations in their policy views, but they do tend to be far more committed to the team blue. (Though that commitment is waning). That means that minority conservatives tend to vote in Democratic primaries, giving us more conservative Democratic nominations.
I really wish more people would vote on something other than their own perceived self interest. Barring that dream, we need to fix broken perceptions. The people seniors and others are voting for, in both primaries and general elections, don't actually serve the interests of their voters.
True. There’s also the problem of closed primaries. You’d never believe how many independents and other third-party registered voters were turned away at the polls in the 2016 primary in NY. 30/50 states have closed primaries, and people participate in them so rarely, they didn’t know any better.
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Yeah, Pete definitely won the Iowa caucus.
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Uh-huh
What's Cuomo doing right now? Oh yeah, ignoring the primary.
What are you talking about? He lost the Democratic nomination to Mamdani. Now he has to run as an independent.
Primaries are held by parties. It’s not entrance into the general election. Anyone with the cash can run as any party they choose. The DNC and RNC have too many contenders, so they run primaries to let us pick their candidates. That’s what primary elections are.
What are you talking about? He lost the Democratic nomination to Mamdani. Now he has to run as an independent.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoiler_effect
He knows exactly what he's doing
Primaries are held by parties. It’s not entrance into the general election. Anyone with the cash can run as any party they choose.
Yep, and a losing candidate can choose to participate in the general to ensure the opposing party wins by splitting the vote, which is what the establishment Dems do when a progressive successfully primaries the..
It's literally ranked choice voting. There is hardly any spoiler effect unless there are so many candidates you couldn't possibly find the one's you want to vote for.
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First of all, if Cuomo runs as an independent, he’ll make Adams the spoiler to his platform. Secondly, there are only ~350k millionaires in NYC. They’re the ones who will be taxed more by Mamdani’s plan. You’re acting like the city is run by them, but we got the numbers. We just need to show up and vote.
And how much do you want to bet he will be backed and supported by the DNC during his 'independent' campaign?
If anything, they’d give Adams money. They occasionally fund spoilers, just like the RNC. Even though Adams is on the Republican ticket, he’s more likely to be the spoiler in the general election.
That's funny, and cute you believe that.
Comments like this are always from people who are ignorant, or people that aren't even in the US.
Or people who have been through more than one election cycle and have seen how far the establishment will go to tank a candidate they don't like in favor of a milquetoast conservative that will lose to a real conservative in the general.
You realise you can present historical actions that support your argument without being a complete bellend about it, right?
For example, in 2015 Bernie Sanders was becoming a hot favourite to become the public's new pin-up boy for the 2016 presidential run. Unfortunately for him, it is alleged that the DNC had already banked on Hilary Clinton being the primary winner, so their plan may have had it's legs done before they even started.
So, it is widely reported that the DNC provided very little support to Sanders for the remainder of his campaign run, while pouring big money and organising competing support behind Clinton, stacking the odds in her favour.
In this instance, history tells us that whereas a candidate may be supremely popular, they may not end up getting the support of the political party they represent.
(The above is a massive oversimplification to fit into a bite sized lemmy post, so points of discussion are expected)
The reality is very few people vote in primaries and, as you've just read in this thread, many don't even know what primaries are.
We literally just picked the Democratic candidate for NYC mayor. What about that is confusing to you? If the DNC didn’t want him, they shouldn’t have allowed him in the primary. That part is over now. Zohran Mamdani is the Democratic candidate. That’s how primaries work. Stop misinforming people. Most are uninformed on the process as it is.
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