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Meta is treading carefully, doing a phased implementation while continuing conversations with Fediverse leaders. This will give the company more time to iron out some of the integration kinks. “Do we adapt the protocol to be able to support this?” Lambert asks. “Or do we try to do some kind of interesting, unique implementation?” For example, Threads supports audio posts, a feature not currently supported within ActivityPub, so Meta is experimenting with “federating” a text transcription of the original post instead of the audio version.

It was never a good idea federating with Threads

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

"Meta will play nice" the shills said.

"They won't EEE you're being paranoid", they said.

"They'll follow the standard", they said.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I keep seeing people hating on the EEE crowd. Finally meta makes a move that proves we were right.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

im gonna be a facebool conspiracy theorist here : reddit mabye got meta to EEE the fediverse

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah, right. And they come in on flying saucers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

EEE?

Edit: When did people start referring to embrace, extend, extinguish as EEE? I've heard of the term plenty for the past ~24 years but never seen this acronym before? Ah well...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

embrace, extend, execute

What Microsoft tried to do to Java in the 2000's

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What google did with the precursor of matrix. Forgot the name.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

xmpp? i just needto say that xmpp is still around, and i strongly prefer it over matrix.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The precursor of reddit is also still there. Google kicked it out of relevance all those years back.

I read about it since I have a matrix instance and shopped alternatives. What would you say are the points it has over matrix?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It just seems faster in every client that I've tried. There's also a lot of software that's built around it, and crucially, my xmpp bridge isn't banned from joining Libera IRC channels.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Interesting! Thanks for mentioning it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Embrace, extend, extinguish

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Sorry for the n00b question, but how does a more “redditesque” Lemmy work with a more “twitteresque” service, and vice versa?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Actually pretty well. I've seen mastodon users around a few times.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

It doesn't, this is pretty much just for them linking with Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Both use activity pub protocol. Mastodon and lemmy already work somewhat well together.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Another big, lingering question is why Meta wants to do this in the first place. Lambert says Meta wants to give users more control over their posts and followers, with easier avenues to engage across platforms.

So will they be implementing a method to export this data in ways that could be imported to other platforms? Otherwise I don't see where federation fits in here all that much.

Extending reach isn't really the same as control imo.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

For example, Threads supports audio posts, a feature not currently supported within ActivityPub(...)

Laughs in Funkwhale, Castopod, and even any ActivityPub platform implementing an Audio object type

Wired checked no Meta claim against reality.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Even Misskey is allowing exact audio object type.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fediverse leaders? Like John Mastodon?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The article's paywalled, but presumably they're talking to active developers and people who run large instances.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I think it's doubtful that they actually are. If they were actually reaching out to any Mastodon "leaders," I think the leaders would be saying something about it and posting the communications.

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