There is no such thing as unskilled labour.
this post was submitted on 14 Apr 2024
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A recent Unlearning Economics Live video had Cahal mentioning that it was pretty easy to identify essential workers, and if that's the case we should earmark housing for those workers in the relevant areas. If it's been so easy to classify them, there should probably be other similar accomodations (eg tax breaks) from a payment perspective.
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Not the same thing. An essential worker was somebody doing a job needed for society to continue. That includes both skilled (years of training) jobs and unskilled (a week or two at most before you can do it) jobs.
Was McDonald's and Starbucks really necessary for society to continue? And if it is: They should definitely be paid a lot more just for that, let alone the minimum necessary to survive (which they don't get).
Probably not, but there's a lot of people who don't know how to make any food at all. Close the fast food restaurants and they starve.
Maybe if, in the days of being able to look up almost literally any recipe on planet earth, as well as endless catalogues of cooking tutorials, a person cannot manage to mangle together enough food to not starve to death without McDonald's sustaining them, then this person is simply taking their Darwin award?
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If their job is essential for the continuation of society, maybe we should pay them more?
rice is essential. should it be more expensive than caviar?
edit: I misread more as in more than the non-essential.
Ah, so you liken people you deem less than you to inanimate objects, cool
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We're comparing people's ability to survive with the price of mass produced food?
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The problem is that ANYBODY can do it. Why pay a premium for grunt work?
People who feed you are doing grunt work? People who take your garbage away too? You gave just dismissed two groups of people whose jobs are vital to your wellbeing.
The problem with your thinking is it’s actually not thinking at all.
to be fair it is grunt work compared to your average office job.
doesnt make them any less deserving at all of a fair living though.
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Yes. People who do jobs that take minimal training and who could be replaced in a week are doing grunt work. That's the difference between skilled and unskilled. Do you need to go through years of training to do your job? Congratulations, you're not as replaceable as the guy who was trained in 2 days by a high school dropout.
Except "nobody wants to work anymore" i.e. you can't actually replace them that easily.
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Cool. So if everyone Learns To Code because that's the only way to deserve an actual living, who does the essential but unskilled jobs then? Oh I get it, you're advocating for labour immigration. Cool.
Supply and demand. The supply reduced so wages went up but only as much as demand required. If you want more money be more valuable.
So you want labour shortages (and/or strikes because that's the other way to effect a supply shortage) for a while to hurt the economy before The Market finds a way to pay the people it wants to consume their way to infinite growth
What a weirdly planned economy
Well, we could skip the labor shortage until wages increase by increasing wages right away.
We simply don't have a perfect market, which would be required for supply and demand to regulate without hiccups.
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