After a while after you switch to Linux, the Microsoft headlines start getting funny instead of infuriating. π
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I have to use Office 365 for work so there's no alternative but I think these ads are just for the non-enterprise version? I use Thunderbird for private use but tbf, I send like 2 emails a month at most. Are there many people that use outlook daily for private use?
I saw an add just last week asking me to install Outlook on my phone. I use Outlook for work too, so I just dismissed it.
I do not understand why anyone would use Outlook when thunderbird is free and, in my experience, much more functional.
Does thunderbird still look and feel like it was designed in 1998?
Maybe not 1998 but it definitely has a particular look. I like it though, it's utilitarian.
I pay for a plugin so I can use Thunderbird with the exchange server (and 2FA) my office has. Best purchase in a long time, I think it's like a dollar a month or something, pretty cheap.
What do you like about thunderbird?
One thing I like is that it runs on Linux, so outlook isn't an option for me anyway.
I tried other mail clients but most of them don't work with exchange servers (and 2FA)
Prior to this new version of Outlook, Outlook was much more functional than Thunderbird and it wasnβt close. That being said while a year ago Iβd say you were smoking dope, as of right now you are correct, new Outlook sucks.
Ah, I have only used both a relatively small amount, and from my experience I think thunderbird is more functional, flawed though my perspective may be. In what ways has outlook been more functional, from your perspective?
The moment I saw them trying to do this, I switched to Thunderbird.
You were using it before? Why?
Edit: yeah, fuck me for asking a simple question
Because I had been using MSN (which became Outlook) since 2001 and didn't really have a reason to switch.
The biggest reason i think. Is because it is used in most buisnesses. So it is easy to use the same email client at home for most folk.
Yeah this was an immediate no from me on my home PC that I run windows on so I went and downloaded Thunderbird and have been happy ever since.
Why was that the red line for you, given all the other shit that's already in Windows?
Well no. It was the red like for outlook though. I already used Thunderbird on my Kubuntu setup. Outlook was fine before the top email became an add. It was also easy to integrate with my work email.
I see. I misunderstood your comment.
What's keeping you on Windows given you know "how to Linux"?
Honestly convenience. Itβs easier to use for work. Also just found it easier to for gaming. At least that was true when I first started using Linux 5 or so years ago. I was dual booting on my old build and havenβt taken the time to partition a Linux distro on my new build. I run Kubuntu on a 2011 MacBook Pro for a smart home setup and I love it. The machine was almost useless and now runs about as well as any other laptop Iβve got. So I guess the short answer is I need/like having the option.
Vermont can outlaw billboards across the state, but when it comes to everything digital, it seems like nothing's safe. We cannot even check out email on a dedicated email client application without being subjected to ads, both in the form of spam emails, marketing lists, and now even ads from the program itself.
IMO the government should be stepping in to regulate where ads can be placed, just like Vermont did with billboards.
I'll just leave this here: https://www.thunderbird.net/
Damn, this looks WAY better than when I used Thunderbird in 2020. Gonna have to give it another try on my work laptop since I use Outlook there.
So protonmail is pretty cool.
Made the switch last year from Gmail and I love it. I set up a custom domain and a catch all address as well, so I can give out [email protected] as an email and it gets to me. Particularly nice for finding out who's sharing my information, as well as picking out phishing emails. Banking coming in from [email protected]? Immediate red flag.
Forgot about the catchall, but the [email protected] trick works great for filtering stuff.
E: on protonMail, that is.
My current provider supports @somegarbage.mail.domain.com style which is a good alternative to the + sign thing.
You should note that this was a Gmail feature that is now made available by a bunch of email providers, but you might wanna check that you do indeed get your emails delivered to plus addresses before you rush out to change your contact info everywhere. Some providers have lacking support and sometimes emails may fail to send to plus addresses even if your side does support it. Using a catchall will always work because you know, that's just how email works.
Some sites also reject the + emails.
I wonder why...