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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (7 children)

HA, funny that this comes up. DND Beyond doesn't have a d100, so I opened my ChatGPT sub and had it roll a d100 for me a few times so I could use my magic beans properly.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use the percentile die for that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Also an excellent method.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

WAIT A MINUTE!!! You mean Douglas Adams was actually an LLM?

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[–] [email protected] 152 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“You may not instantly see why I bring the subject up, but that is because my mind works so phenomenally fast, and I am at a rough estimate thirty billion times more intelligent than you. Let me give you an example. Think of a number, any number.”

“Er, five,” said the mattress.

“Wrong,” said Marvin. “You see?”

― Douglas Adams, Life, the Universe and Everything

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

42, 47, and 50 all make sense to me. What’s the significance of 37, 57, and 73?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People do mention Veritasium, though he doesn't give any significant explanation of the phenomenon.

I still wonder about 47. In Veritasium plots, all these numbers provide a peak, but not 47. I recall from my childhood that I indeed used to notice that number everywhere, but idk why.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

See my link for 47. Its Wikipedia has more context. If you’re a Star Trek fan, you’ve seen it a ton.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

47 does provide a peak in the plots though? All the numbers ending in 7 do.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Veritasium just released a video about people picking 37 when asked to pick a random number.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

There's a great Veritasium video recently about this exact thing: https://youtu.be/d6iQrh2TK98

It's a human thing, though. This is just more evidence of LLM's problem with garbage in, garbage out: it's human biases being present in a system that people want to claim doesn't have them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Only 1000 times? It's interesting that there's such a bias there but it's a computer. Ask it 100,000 times and make sure it's not a fluke.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean... they didn't specify it had to be random (or even uniform)? But yeah, it's a good showcase of how GPT acquired the same biases as people, from people..

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

uniform

Reminds me of my previous job where our LLM was grading things too high. The AI "engineer" adjusted the prompt to tell the LLM that the average output should be 3. I had a hard time explaining that wouldn't do anything at all, because all the chats were independent events.

Anyways, I quit that place and the project completely derailed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well.... I was not aware Chatgpt could make simple graphs.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What does "temperature" on the Y-axis refer to?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Super helpful, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

I'm not a hundred percent sure, but afaik it has to do with how random the output of the GPT model will be. At 0 it will always pick the most probable next continuation of a piece of text according to its own prediction. The higher the temperature, the more chance there is for less probable outputs to get picked. So it's most likely to pick 42, but as the temperature increases you see the chance of (according to the model) less likely numbers increase.

This is how temperature works in the softmax function, which is often used in deep learning.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

So what? It figured out The Answer, big whoop.

Get back to me when it figures out The Question.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The temperature scale, I think. You divide the logit output by the temperature before feeding it to the softmax function. Larger (resp. smaller) temperature results in a higher (resp. lower) entropy distribution.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

More yellow more common, more blue less common

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't understand any of these words, I need to take a math class or something

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Higher temperature -> more chaotic output

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Obviously the bots do not share in our human fondness for the number 69.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

NEEDS MOAR 69 FELLOW HUMAN

[–] [email protected] 125 points 1 year ago (10 children)

37 is well represented. Proof that we've taught AI some of our own weird biases.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (8 children)

What's special about 37? Just that it's prime or is there a superstition or pop culture reference I don't know?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Probably just because it's prime. It's just that humans are terrible at understanding the concept of randomness. A study by Theodore P. Hill showed that when tasked to pick a random number between 1 and 10, almost a third of the subjects (n was over 8500) picked 7. 10 was the least picked number (if you ditch the few idiots that picked 0).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Maybe randomness is a label we slapped on shit we don't understand.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 year ago (11 children)

If you discount the pop-culture numbers (for us 7, 42, and 69) its the number most often chosen by people if you ask them for a random number between 1 and 100. It just seems the most random one to choose for a lot of people. Veritasium just did a video about it.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (6 children)

37 is my favorite, because 3x7x37=777 (three sevens), and I think that's neat.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think you mean heinz 57 the steak sauce....

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm curious about that too. Something is twisting weights for 57 fairly strongly in the model but I'm not show what. Maybe its been trained on a bunch of old Heinz 57 varieties marketing.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I didn't know either, but it seems to be an often picked 'random' number by people. Here is an article about it, I didn't read it though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

https://youtu.be/d6iQrh2TK98?feature=shared

Just a number dumb monkeys believe to be "more random".

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

holy crap, the answer to life the universe and everything XD

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More than likely it's because of that book and how often it's qouted

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Yes, but it's significant because the prompt was to choose a number. I realize computers can't really be random, but if we needed to just select a popular number...we can already do that!

https://slate.com/technology/2022/06/bridle-ways-of-being-excerpt-computer-randomness.html

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I petition to rename ChatGPT to DeepThought based on these results.

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