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Missouri executes Brian Dorsey for 2006 double murder after mercy bid backed by 72 correctional officers (www.cnn.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The state of Missouri on Tuesday executed Brian Dorsey for the 2006 murders of his cousin, Sarah Bonnie, and her husband, Benjamin Bonnie, after an effort to have his life spared failed in recent days.

Dorsey’s time of death was recorded as 6:11 p.m, the Missouri Department of Corrections said in a news release. The method of execution was lethal injection, Karen Pojmann, a spokesperson for the department, said at a news conference, adding it “went smoothly, no problems.”

The execution of Dorsey, 52, occurred hours after the US Supreme Court declined to intervene and about a day after Missouri’s Republican governor denied clemency, rejecting the inmate’s petition – backed by more than 70 correctional officers and others – for a commutation of his sentence to life in prison.

Dorsey and his attorneys cited his remorse, his rehabilitation while behind bars and his representation at trial by attorneys who allegedly had a “financial conflict of interest” as reasons he should not be put to death. But those arguments were insufficient to convince Gov. Mike Parson, who said in a statement carrying out Dorsey’s sentence “would deliver justice and provide closure.”

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (6 children)

is it really that much of a surprise that the most conservative and conservative christian states really love imposing the harshest old testament level punishments on as many people as possible?

forgiveness and rehabilitation? that sounds like something christ would do. fuck that, string him up on the old maple tree in the park so we can make an example out of him.

notice the same states proudly claiming to be pro life lead the nation in infant mortality, post birth mortality, and death sentences. it only shows that "pro life" only emphasizes the developing life, not any of it fully developed.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

"Hey, now don't kill anyone, or else we'll kill you."

It really is a weird take. Also, our justice system routinely jails people who are innocent. This reason is why I oppose the death penalty in most cases.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago (4 children)

He was murdered by the state. That's what the "death penalty" is. It's state-sanctioned murder. Barbarous.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We also have state-sanctioned kidnapping, wherein the convicted are taken from their families and held against their will, sometimes for years at a time.

There are many good arguments against the death penalty. I don't think those that just rephrase what is done in an emotional way are good ones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

And the whole property seizure without due process thing (civil forfeiture) although each of these is somewhat less important than the last.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

no, you're right, especially as nearly every single independent study agrees with your first paragraph.

Prison generates profit first, solves crime... well not second, maybe ninth? Sixteenth? A hundred and twenty eighth?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean, you could argue that even if the criminal justice system in the US were massively improved, there would still be no reason to have the death penalty. And yet there could still be good reason to keep imprisonment as a consequence for many types of crimes.

I'm curious what your alternative is.

I don't think you want to tie getting rid of the death penalty to current inequities and private prison corruption unless in your ideal system it should make a return.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it's not about "me" or "my" alternatives as I am not an expert. however, look at Sweden, Finland, Denmark, the Netherlands and New Zealand.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The kidnapping analogy also applies to the Nordic countries, the Netherlands, and New Zealand. They all have governments which detain people against their will.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (6 children)

you have absolutely lost my interest in this conversation if you're going to flat out state that the Nordic system is identical to the US

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[+] [email protected] -10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Murder means an unlawful killing, a lawful killing as in this case is the opposite of a murder. For an example of a true murder, look no further than the actions of the executed man: he killed his cousin and her husband after calling them for help.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

He also had a well-documented history of mental illness, which would have been a defense to the death penalty, and an exemplary record as an inmate. More than 70 correctional officers signed the petition begging for him not to be murdered by the state.

And murder is the intentional killing of a human being. The fact that someone signs a piece of paper that says it's okay doesn't change the nature of the act.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

And murder is the intentional killing of a human being

No it isn't. Murder is illegal killing of someone else. No reasonable person is going to call you a murderer if you kill someone who is trying to kill you and you reasonably believe you have no other choice.

You're thinking of the term homicide, which isn't always murder.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

And murder is the intentional killing of a human being.

I looked it up and every definition website includes that it has to be illegal to be considered murder. By your definition every instance of self-defense is murder.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago

murica

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Our country has gotten grim over the last decade, and if you don't see it, that's scary.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Conservatism has been on the rise. Conservatism is death.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Missouri

Spoiler, it's illegal

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

You just gotta wait till it commits 3 felonies.

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