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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reading ab*sive is more traumatic

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[–] Horrible_Goblin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

nice try narcissists

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.run 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  1. Take a learners dictionary and pair it with an advanced one.
  2. Pic some controversial words.
  3. Compare verbs against nouns, nouns against adjectives so the definitions aren’t actually the same but look like they should be.
  4. Completely make up the last “simple” definition so it seems like you are making some profound point that’s actually just a dumb comment.
  5. Call the side with the stupid comment you made up “pop psychology” so people can hate on others for no reason while demonstrating in plain sight what gaslighting actually looks like.

Either that or just be too dumb to know how your own language works.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's the wojack/Chad meme of "your side is represented as crying wojack, my side is represented with chiseled Chad version, therefore I win"

And the "umm akshyully this is what gaslighting REALLY is" just makes me think someone made this whole thing just to try and prove to another person they aren't a gaslighting narcissist who doesn't believe someone has ptsd and has lasting issues stemming from it.

Besides, There doesn't have to be some elaborate ongoing scheme for something to be gaslighting.

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[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, true on both. I mean.. I guess I've used the terms either way but also understand the differences and appropriate usages of both.

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.run 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are correct. The only truly incorrectly defined word in the list is the “pop psychology” form of “trauma”, which looks like it was just made up for the sake of the meme. “Gaslighting” is correct on both sides, but the two in the middle are actually being paired with different forms of the same word, so the definition is inherently different. Also, the definitions on the left are coming from a learner’s dictionary so they come across as stupid next to advanced definitions.

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[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I disagree with this but not sure if you're gaslighting me or not 🤔.

[–] Entropywins@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your definitely being gaslight.

Or are you...

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago

Oh god... hold me 🥹

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can't be the only one, so:

Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental health condition in which people have an unreasonably high sense of their own importance. They need and seek too much attention and want people to admire them. People with this disorder may lack the ability to understand or care about the feelings of others.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662

[–] exocrinous@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Worth keeping in mind the reason NPD happens is when a child is abused and does not develop an inherent sense of their own self worth, one possible coping mechanism is to create a false ego, which by necessity is bigger than a healthy person's ego so it can have resilience and redundancy. It's brittle, fragile, so they build it bigger. If a pwNPD had a normal size ego, being delicate as it is it would shatter in an average day from all the normal ego damage that people naturally need to endure.

The narcissism of NPD isn't a disorder. It's more like a blood clot, a scab. If you tear a scab off, you'll just make someone bleed again. It's the same with NPD. Damage to the ego is what causes the actual damage to the person. That, and discrimination. The disorder is the state of the brain being injured and needing that barrier in place to be functional. We consider narcissism part of the disorder of NPD in the same way we consider a scab to be a part of a wound.

A lot of people say "stop being narcisstic! Get a smaller ego, and your disorder will go away!" That isn't how mental disorders work. It's dangerous advice that can and does get people seriously hurt. A person living with NPD who loses their grandiosity can suffer trauma, can self harm, can take action that results in loss of relationships and jobs, and can even attempt suicide.

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[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Be honest with yourself, but don’t glorify victimhood. Being a victim fucking sucks. It’s not something to aspire to. I have my issues, but I know I’m not a victim.

I’ve been blessed not to have to deal with abuse the way others have. I don’t want to cheapen what they went through by classifying something unpleasant I went through in personal interactions as actual abuse or trauma.

[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago

It's so difficult to try and have this nuanced take with people. I'm NOT trivializing or saying you should "just suck it up " I'm suggesting that you treat mental illness like an illness: Seek treatment, follow professional advice, and be honest with yourself and the professionals you're seeing. If I broke my leg, but refused to get a cast because I felt it was really a problem with my arm, while lying to every doctor I meet about what happened, people would get very sick of my nonsense in short order.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'd've liked to see "schizophrenic," "antisocial," and "psychopath" among possible others, but this is indeed pretty cool.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] morganth@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree with the other three, but this is wrong about “narcissists”. “Narcissistic Personality Disorder” is a diagnosis, but calling someone a “narcissist” isn’t. That’s just a description of someone’s personality. It’s much older than the diagnosis, going back to the Greek myth of Narcissus. The diagnosis doesn’t get to co-opt the much older usage.

[–] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's just the higher stage of selfishness. You can be selfish, egoistic, etc. Then you reach Narcissus level, or worst, the pond/lake level.

[–] exocrinous@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're not speaking ancient Greek, mate, you're speaking English, and your use is informed by the history of the English language. The use of Nar******t in pop culture is largely informed by Christopher Lach's 1979 book The Culture Of Narcissism, which made the argument that contemporary American culture was normalising clinical NPD. You didn't learn to call people nar******ts by reading ancient Greek myths, and I know that for a fact because the ancient greeks didn't go around using the word. To them, it was just some guy's name. You learned the word from someone who learned the word from someone who learned the word from Lasch's book, and from the ableist books that came after. Your folk etymology explanation that the pop culture use comes directly from Greek is missing a lot of important and relevant intermediate steps.

[–] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Brainiac!

LOL love this mic drop

[–] oleorun 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Why do they censor 'aubsive'?

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

I was looking for the notes on ab* for a while before I realized. It really seems weird

[–] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

It's a b*d word

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Act*al psychology

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

On some platforms OCR reads it and filters.

[–] hdnsmbt@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fuck th*se pl*tforms, th*n.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Because two of the big platforms might cut off your traffic for using any of a long list of arbitrary words.

It's pretty fucking disgusting to self censor inoffensive language because an app might stop showing your memes to other mouthbreathers.

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[–] riplin@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

**** ********* *** ********?

**** ******* ******** *******!

**** ******* ***.

[–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jeez, right in the *********? Brutal.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Why does it censor "abusive?"

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago
[–] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Some SEO thing for avoid to be shadowed/banned on some platform which use OCR.

[–] Raffster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I wondered as well. Doesn't make sense (to me).

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago
[–] pixelscience@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Typing abusive is a trigger for them.

[–] oo1@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago
[–] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah, if they're gonna do that, they need to censor trigger and trauma too. Better throw in "flashbacks*, PTSD, and OCD just to be safe.

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