The more reproductive health care becomes unavailable, the less sex men will get.
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I would bet $20 this is bullshit. Even a ban on sex wouldn't stop it in any meaningful amout
That sounds like a recruitment tactic for the party of impotent rage.
that sounds like you're trying to describe Democrats? Because Republicans would be the party of impotence and rage, I think. 🤔
I didn't see this mentioned in the article, but I skimmed parts of it. Do they realize that preventing pregnancy isn't the only reason people use birth control? Are they planning on making medical exceptions? Let me be clear, it's still hugely fucked up either way; I'm just curious.
I took BC for several years for my endometriosis, and I knew several friends who were prescribed it as teens to treat similar conditions. And sometimes they didn't have a specific diagnosis, but they just had especially painful or frequent/heavy periods. Apart from that, aren't there certain medical treatments that require you to take birth control for x number of weeks bc they could harm a potential fetus? I can't remember a specific example.
And, yeah, preventing pregnancy is pretty damn important too. Fuck those guys.
An extremely painful/heavy/frequent period is exactly what they want to happen. The cruelty is the point.
In the video, in the link, he mentioned that birth control pills were used for all sorts of other things besides preventing pregnancy, like helping with acne amongst others. I wish I could quote you what he said, but I refuse to listen to it again, it's infuriating.
Anyways, point is, he knows and he believes all it's uses are wrong.
Wonderful. /s
But thanks. And it only makes it more ironic what he's complaining about, because personally, getting my hormones under control made me way more emotionally stable.
My condition was absolutely debilitating -- I ended up doing 7th grade online at home, and it was miserable. If this idiot wants to take away medication that can keep a kid out of pain, I'd like to be first in line to personally rip his head off.
I'll add, the alternatives for 15 y/o me would have been stronger pain medication, or surgery. (...I mean, I switched to testosterone hrt after turning 18, and I guess you could consider that an option since it does stop periods. But somehow I doubt more trans people is what he wants lmao.)
Do they realize that preventing pregnancy isn't the only reason people use birth control?
They don't care
Are they planning on making medical exceptions?
No.
Source: see abortion bans. Women with unviable pregnancies that will kill them can't get abortions. Control is the entire point.
Source: see abortion bans. Women with unviable pregnancies that will kill them can't get abortions. Control is the entire point.
I just laugh now when people say "there will be reasonable exceptions". We already went on this rodeo with abortion. There will be no exceptions. Reality is slapping voters in the face and they just don't care.
Women. When Conservatives are screaming that they hate you, believe them.
There will be no exceptions in Gilead.
aren’t there certain medical treatments that require you to take birth control for x number of weeks bc they could harm a potential fetus? I can’t remember a specific example.
Accutane. It's based on vitamin A and will do all sorts of nasty stuff to fetuses.
Also to your skin. I was dried out for like 5+ years
That's for serious cystic acne though isn't it?
The alternative would be incredibly oily skin, then, right?
I had acne as a kid but not that bad. Tetracycline or Erythromycin were enough for them. Still, I'd see that like "dressing in layers". Just like you can always add more layers but there's a point where you can't take them off...it's probably easier to re-moisturize dry skin than to de-lipidize oily skin.
Idk, it wasnt super crazy, but I had tried a broad spectrum antibiotic that didn’t do much, so a dermatologist recommended acutane. It worked
So are these Republicans going to go after vasectomies? Haven't heard a peep about them, even though they are rising.
What could be the difference? What could it possibly be?
No, because how can you control women with vasectomies? It’s not about birth control, or “screwing up female brains” or whatever else is being shit out of their mouths. It is, and always has been, about the control of women. The cruelty is a feature, not a bug
The Pill can in fact alter the smell based preferences of women, which temporarily alters mating preference. This is due to the pill simulating the hormones of pregnancy, as part of its mechanism of action.
However, I don't believe this is what Republicans are referring to, as in The Salon article Charlie Kirk is talking about it causing "brain damage".
No they're just being possessive and controlling assholes, as usual. They're anti-freedom.
Anecdotally pills can also alter behaviour and personality somewhat. Especially the megadose hormones like Depo-provera, that stuff messed up a girl I was dating long ago. Turned her into an emotional wreck. I would actually support not a ban, but warnings and restrictions on that particular product.
I've always felt that choices like the Mirena IUD should be promoted over systemic hormones, my ex-wife was very happy with them over the years and we agreed we'll be offering our daughter the option as soon as she gets her first period. For some reason they seem to push the Pill instead.
I know some people have issues with IUDs but if they work for you they really work. Her hormones changed and she went asexual after kids, but she still maintains an IUD just for the greatly diminished cramping and bleeding.
Just FYI, before you offer it to your kid, please do significant research. They’re constantly getting better, so by then it may be fine, but non hormonal IUDs have been linked with hella scarring in the past.
We did a ton of research when my wife first got one, I studied biochem so figured I could assess the situation fairly well.
Non-hormonal are awful and I wouldn't recommend them to anyone. Mirena on the other hand does release hormones, but in small enough quantity that the effects are basically topical - localized to the uterus and serum concentrations are barely affected compared to pills or shots.
I brain farted and thought mirena was the copper one. Thank god, I thought you were super attached to giving an eleven year old a non hormonal iud. I had a state university clinician tell me that I was a conspiracy theorist for thinking there could be scarring and straight up pressure me to let her insert it, so I assume someone out there is recommending them to people.
Yikes, I can't imagine who would recommend copper unless someone had a bad reaction to the hormonal type. The mode of action is totally different, with hormonal suppressing the whole cycle and copper being more like a continuous abortion.
My wife didn't have a period for years aside from some occasional spotting with Mirena, I figure if we can save my daughter a decade of cramping and bleeding by offering her one young, the birth control is almost a happy side effect.
There are non-hormonal IUDs to but apparently they aren't as effective, at least according to my SIL and my new niece (I know that's a sample of one but I'm pretty sure I know at least other unexpecteds as a result of copper IUD)
The hormones in Mirena are in a low enough dosage that they only affect the uterine lining rather than have a systematic effect. It's the clear choice as non-hormonal (i.e. copper) have the opposite side effect profile. Heavy periods, cramping, other undesirable effects
We all knew this was coming after the success of abortion bans. Shameless.
Anything to control women
* females
You lost me at "females" Kirk. Talking like they're science specimens.
Isn’t this the natural progression of they’re gonna get hounded about sex and gender being different?
I can imagine the sentiment might be “ok, we’ll start referring to sex specifically.” And why shouldn’t they if that’s what they mean?
Well in that case using just "female" is ambiguous. Are they banning female horses from breeding also? All female animals?
When speaking publicly I imagine someone would think about possible misinterpretations. Wouldn't using "Woman" fare better?
Ok why do conservatives hate having sex wtf sex that doesn't end with a baby if one is off life's best things
People don't desire sex with them. They may be able to coerce (religion) or get sex through power (money/influence), but they aren't generally sexually appealing.
Modern women are financially independent (in fact, they're more educated than men nowadays) and are now far less likely to be tied down and dependent on a man by accidental pregnancies (widespread contraceptives + access to abortions)
Getting a stable 9 to 5 won't result in a wife landing in your lap any more, women will choose to be single over dating a boring shit head, so all the boring shit heads are reeling at the fact that they now have to offer more to the relationship than just financials, and they're consistently voting for policy that attempts to "put women back in their place" (ie dependent on them for money)
This is pure cope.
If you don’t already know about it, search up tradwife culture. Some weirdo women like that sort of thing.
We can hate conservatives for the kind of world we know they want to bring about but we have to acknowledge the fact that some women are equally as stupid so as to want the same.
Jokes on them I've been angry for a long time without birth control.
Don't you blame magrats for this shit, the republicans were doing just fine on their own and have been since regan
Yep, that sounds like Charlie Kirk seeking coverage.
Ba birth control. Dare ya. Wait till these guys find out that women won't have sex with them any longer.
Won't have consensual sex with them any longer.
Which isn't the kind they like anyway.
I read an article (and I think I posted it somewhere on Lemmy) a couple days ago about how mega-churches brainwash women into submitting to anything their husband requests. It goes hand in hand with this stuff
Cults do be rapey. Kind of a classic.
That’s definitely also conditioning them to oppose female suffrage
To be fair, Emma Goldman called that shit.
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