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Is this some sort of remnant of evangelical puritan protestant ideology?

I don't understaun this.

If you ask me, it'd make as much sense as Orthodox and Christians.... or Shia and Muslim...

I know not all Christians are Catholics but for feck's sake...

They're all Christians to me....

Edit:

It's a U.S thing but this is the sort of things I hear...

https://www.gotquestions.org/Catholic-Christian.html

I am a Catholic. Why should I consider becoming a Christian?

I now know more distinctions (apparently Catholicism requires duty and salvation is process, unlike Protestantism?) but I still think they're of a similar branch (Christianity) so I just wonder the social factor

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The same can be asked about the Mormons. It’s Christians who have a weird obsession with deciding who gets to be Christian.

For me, if they believe in the divinity of Christ, they’re Christian.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There's plenty of great commentary here about why Christianity is divided up into different sects, but I think you're primarily interested in the narcissism of small differences. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism_of_small_differences)

Basically, if you've read about Dr. Suess' Starbellied Sneeches, you get the idea. Human brains are exceptional pattern recognition machines, and when a society is so homogenously Christian then those small differences become the cleavages along which identities form. That leads to things like Catholic / Christian divisions and the formation of the best joke in The Guardian history:

Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, "Don't do it!" He said, "Nobody loves me." I said, "God loves you. Do you believe in God?"

He said, "Yes." I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?" He said, "A Christian." I said, "Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me, too! What franchise?" He said, "Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?" He said, "Northern Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?"

He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region." I said, "Me, too!"

Northern Conservative†Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over.

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2005/sep/29/comedy.religion

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All the big (and probably small) schisms happened primarily for political reasons (i.e. material interests, power struggles). It's just that lots of other issues (including small differences) tend to align themselves along the same lines, because I guess that helps with the polarization. Doesn't mean this "narcissism of small differences" doesn't exist, just that it's not the cause, but rather part of the dynamic.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This might be a regional thing. At least in Germany, where the reformation took place, the term Christian include all groups, protestans, catholics, orthodox etc.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

You won’t find me using this dichotomy—I just use the blanket term “Assholes.”

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Because religion is all about dividing people into arbitrary groups. Catholicism is a specific type of dogmatic Christian theology

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because the Anglosphere was so xenophobic that even the Irish and Italians were too culturally exotic to them and thus demonized their entire belief system.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because America is built by non-catholic faiths composed of heretics that love to burn women alive, abusers that craft abusive personality cults in hills-have-eyes country, false prophet grifters who tell you god's gonna cure your terminal ilness if you help them get a private jet for their dogs, the hate-worshiping demons that blight the south 'evangelicals' that drive modern american politics, and misogynistic polytheistic pagans wearing the Christian mask while dressed in their weird underwear and tell you you're not allowed to drink coffee but monster energy drinks are a-okay, who all want to be acknowledged as the real Christian faith instead of being labeled as schismatic protestants and chose to go with the common moniker "catholics & christians" instead of "catholics and protestants"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean a lot of Christianity in the US is like that, but I don't like you implying that there's another type of Christianity (presumably the one you believe in) that's so much better.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Every US president has been Christian but only one has been Catholic. It is considered as a clear distinction in the US imo

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

JFK and Biden makes 2

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