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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Everyone acting like the CIA couldn't have had leverage over that guy and made him admit to the cp charge . Unless i have some kind of proof i ain't believing shit . And also if that is true indeed i think 40 years is fair enough for that charge alone . Or am i missing something ?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how many of the gaping security holes in softwares and systems he reported have since been patched that otherwise would have left to doors wide open for hackers?

As long as governments hoard security vulnerabilities, they are endangering security, safety, life and property of millions of people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

NSA accidentally leaking eternal blue lol

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Why does the CIA have a trove of child porn?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

To prove the charges. There have been enough cases of "she looks too young to be 18" where they were, in fact, 18. This database (which I thought was actually run by the FBI, but whatever) let's them show that the images were of Jane Roe, born May 5 1996, and the images/material were produced between 2008-2010.

IOW, to provide proof beyond a reasonable doubt that they were underage.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Leverage.

...

Drugs -> Money

Sex -> Control the Powerful

Plumbers protect the CIA.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's always big pipe isn't it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Wet works. Always in demand.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Whether or not you think he should be jailed for leaking CIA secrets, the dude had child porn. He deserved a serious sentence because he expressed zero remorse for that. Along those lines he couldn’t even fucking pretend to have leaked the state secrets for any other reason than the CIA was a shitty place to work. You gotta play the fucking game if you’re gonna fuck with the government. You can’t just be a crusty old coder.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 9 months ago (3 children)

"Furman said Schulte continued his crimes from behind bars ... by creating a hidden file on his computer that contained 2,400 images of child sexual abuse that he continued to view from jail."

How do you get 2.4k images on a jail computer? Manifest it out of thin air?

Considering CIA is involved, which is known for torture, human experimentation, poisonings, planted evidence, etc. I'd not be too surprised if that file was straight up planted as an extra "fuck you" to the guy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I think one of the things that inflate image counts like that is that if there is a video of child porn, each individual frame of the video is counted as a single image. If he downloaded a 40 second, 60 FPS video, that's 2.4k images right there.

This is why it's more interesting when they mention total size in gigabytes of whatever, because image data has a maximum compression size but "raw number of images" is completely made up and could be a single file even when in the tens ouf thousands (still bad of course but you get my point)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

CIA: "yeah let's put this 2.4k images of child porn at his computer and he will be fucked muahahahaha 😈😈"

Seems like something the CIA definitely would do.

Specially if someone leak their "precious secrets"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

CIA can cobble together questionable evidence against an entire country, proving the US administration with more reasons to start a "preventive war". A war which would eventually end with "whoopsie-daisy, there are no WMDs after all".

Yet, planting evidence on a single guy who just leaked a whole bunch of their secrets? No, of course they'd never do anything questionable or immoral to him!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That was never part of his defense. Do you think the CIA colluded with him and his lawyer to accept responsibility for the material the CIA planted to sandbag his sentence? I feel like an innocent person would be screaming that. Hell, even possibly innocent/possibly guilty folks do.

Edit: here’s a quote about the material you’re defending:

Schulte called the child pornography he was accused of possessing a "victimless crime"

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/06/13/the-surreal-case-of-a-cia-hackers-revenge

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The sentence previous to the one you're quoting, the one you've omitted, changes the context quite a lot.

When he heard that the government was pushing to keep him detained pending trial, his stomach dropped. “The crime I am charged with is in fact a non-violent, victimless crime,”

In the US a person pending trial can be either released or kept detained. (18 U.S. Code § 3142 - Release or detention of a defendant pending trial) In cases when the defendant is being charged with non-violent crimes, it's fairly common for them to be released until their trial. Possibly on bond.

The wording of his statement is... questionable. But in this context, it could be re-worded to something like "you're are accusing me of possession of illegal material, which is not a violent crime. I was not involved in creation of said material, therefore there are no victims of mine".

Anyway, even if he did have the material in question, the fact that they report finding some on a jail computer is awful weird. Those aren't, exactly, known for having unrestricted and unmonitored access to the internet. I, also, would be surprised if those computers are less locked down than school or library computers, which tend to restrict users' permissions to the bare minimum, often as far as prohibiting creation of files.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Apologies. I copied the quote from his Wikipedia article. The other sentences I left out included him potentially assaulting a drunk roommate and the decade+ of evidence covering his interest in CSAM. That really changes your context quite a bit, no?

Still waiting for you to produce evidence of his defense about it all being the CIA. You’re really focused on the poor wording of a single news report covering his case and you’re missing the preponderance of evidence.

Edit: you really defended someone who claimed that CSAM was a victimless crime. What the fuck.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

I merely pointed out that in the context, his statement was, most likely, not trying to claim that CSAM is a victimless crime, but that his alleged possession of it is.

Substitute CSAM for something like murder, for example: It's one thing to have a video of someone committing murder and a very different thing to commit murder yourself and record it. One is, obviously, a violent crime; the other, not so much. It's a similar argument here.

He might be 100% guilty, he might not be. I don't know for sure. What I do know for sure, is that CIA and other alphabet agencies have a history of being... less than honest and moral. So, I exercise caution and take their statements with a fair bit of skepticism. Pardon me of that doesn't come off as I intend it to.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit, they really buried the lede with that headline. For sure, throw away the key.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

I don't know about you guys, but I don't really trust the word of the CIA on those things. Or anything, really.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What happened to the guy who staged a coup to overthrow the government? Remember where all those psychos with guns wailed on cops with flagpoles and shit on the walls and stuff, and that lady planted bombs by the RNC office? Remember that? What happened to that guy?

Oh nothing?

Oh.

Huh.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He chilled with Epstein and raped some kids just like many Democrats. Part of the elite pedo ring.

What was your point again?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We get it, that's why you like him.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't like people in Pedo rape circles like the Republicans or Democrats. Do you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes yes both sides, that's why you jumped in to eagerly start screeching whataboutisms.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

You were all in your fun circle pretending it was only Donald Trump doing Pedo activities.

Then you had to face the reality that both Democrats and Republicans are plenty on Epstein's list that he made before he accidentally slipped on a banana peel in prison

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

I wouldn’t say nothing, as he might become the next US president

(if the world is unlucky)

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