LET THE ENSHITTIFICATION BEGIN!
this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2025
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I knew they would use that info for targeted advertising
It's Facebook 101, let the users themselves tell you what they like
Repeat after me.... "Enshitification"!
Is it really enshitification if it was shit to begin with?
Years ago before Meta bought it, it was good. So I think it kind of counts.
I see a lot of people saying it's time to switch to Signal, and I mean I agree in principle, it's my main messaging app, but I don't see how it can scale. It runs off of donations and the only reason it's still functioning is because the users that are there are above averagely passionate about it and willing to donate. If it became the defacto messaging app I fear that there is no way they would be capable of financing that level of traffic.
WhatsApp getting ads is great news! WhatsApp, and any other meta/facebook/for-profit-social-network will never be a good product. Therefore, the second best alternative is for it to be as bad as possible, so people finally change to worthy alternatives.
What is the alternative here? Don't know, perhaps Signal, though the devs are not welcoming at all. The UI is absolute shit. Looks like UI for old people, huge margins and empty space. My screen fits like 3 chats. A compact theme would take a few hours to create and vastly improve the product, but ya..
My Signal screen fits 8 chats, and looks simliar to any other messenger I've used. It's a messenger app and the UI shows messages. I wouldn't want it to show anything else.
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delta.chat
The enshittify proof alternative!
Yes, encrypted chats packetised over SMTP layer.
Smooth as silk for a year and a half.
Send pics, voicemails, files, videos, and video-chat(via Jitsi integration)
Arcane-chat app does location sharing too.
Would signal also work?
I believe it is centralized but it is certainly an alternative to WhatsApp. My understanding is that it’s encrypted and privacy centric.
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Do you have WhatsApp?
No Telegram?
I dont have that one, none of the clients seem to work on my phone... Wechat?
Cant verify, SMS doesnt get through. LINE?
lol I dont have a japanese number. Kakaotalk?
No... ...discord?
Sure!
Shit he's 30 seconds from finding out Im a furry.
I've never had this problem. If they don't want to download Signal and can't cope with basic SMS then tough luck.
SMS has issues if youre traveling a lot or want to send large files. Nobody has Signal and Im not going to ask someone I just met to install a new app.
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provide free app at a loss
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grow massive user base and market share
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squeeze your userbase for every cent they're worth
Every single time. We got to solve the funding issue some how, I dont want to live in a future run by ads.
WhatsApp was not free and already had a massive user base before Facebook bought it.
Hope this will turn people to alternatives.
Wasn’t it like a quid to sign up?
Yeah it was something like that, very low price compared to what SMS were charged for.
What app?
Really though, what was the main use for this kind of chat app? Genuinely since I assume there is one, I just don't know it since I never had a reason to use it. Was it encrypted? Cause I get using specifically encrypted messaging systems, but if it's not, was it that good of an option over other chat apps?
It was SMS, but better. It has been the message platform of choice for pretty much everyone in my country for well over a decade, not as many options existed back then.
I forgot WhatsApp existed.
Guess its shittier now.
Mhm. Yup.
It's the go-to messagging app in my country for historical reasons.
I've never used whatsapp and don't even remember what it's for. Somehow life goes on.
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"We will never show you ads in WhatsApp. We promise". --Facebook when they bought WhatsApp and promised the previous owner not to force ads in the app...
I wonder if anyone believed them at the time
If they did not, they at least ignored that instinct and kept using WhatsApp...
How do we get people to stop ignoring their better instincts in things like this?
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Facebook shit gonna do facebook shit
I'm forced to use WhatsApp chat so I keep it installed begrudgingly. But who the fuck is using WhatsApp stories?
I use Beeper which shows me a unified view of whatsapp and Signal and others. whatsapp itself has zero permissions on my phone. I hate that I need to have it at all but Europe is deep into that. Sigh.
Isn't Beeper another security risk? They also store your data on their cloud, and it's not encrypted during the bridge process.
Whatsapp is popular a lot in many parts of the world. In India, WhatsApp is almost the defacto standard messaging app with Telegram probably flying in a far second. I doubt I know anyone who even uses stuff like Signal or Threema or any of the alternatives.
At least normal European people are locked into a platform that doesn't care what device you're using, unlike iMessage - so it's not all bad
I'm an iPhone user and I've never met anyone that gave a shit about iMessage. In the past ten years.
There was a big uproar amongst normies when the WhatsApp TOS changed......but people forget quickly and prefer convenience. That was our one chance to convert everyone over.
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