The rent seeking is so hard with this automate-the-profits bullshit.
The moment we perfect auto-taxis the service should be a public benefit and run by a nonprofit.
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NYC Mayoral candidate Mamdani is talking about making busses free, and that makes a radical shitload of sense.
Free autotaxis would be a boon for productivity and personal freedom, like AI promises to be but democratized for everybody rather than just the richest fraction of a percent.
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Fucking hell. We don't let drunks drive taxis, and that goddamn thing drove like it was under the influence.
Does Tesla get sent tickets for traffic violations, or are we OK with this?
I'm sure they're legal team is hard at work trying to find loopholes to circumvent any traffic infringements
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I am entirely opposed to driving algorithms. Autopilot on planes works very well because it is used in open sky and does not have to make major decisions about moving in close proximity to other planes and obstacles. Its almost entirely mathematical, and even then in specific circumstances it is designed to disengage and put control back in the hands of a human.
Cars do not have this luxury and operate entirely in close proximity to other vehicles and obstacles. Very little of the act of driving a car is math. It's almost entirely decision making. It requires fast and instinctive response to subtle changes in environment, pattern recognition that human brains are better at than algorithms.
To me this technology perfectly encapsulates the difficulty in making algorithms that mimic human behavior. The last 10% of optimization to make par with humans requires an exponential amount more energy and research than the first 90% does. 90% of the performance of a human is entirely insufficient where life and death is concerned.
Investment costs should be going to public transport systems. They are more cost efficient, more accessible, more fuel/resource efficient, and far far far safer than cars could ever be even with all human drivers. This is a colossal waste of energy time and money for a product that will not be par with human performance for a long time. Those resources could be making our world more accessible for everyone, instead they're making it more accessible for no one and making the roads significantly more dangerous. Capitalism will be the end of us all if we let them. Sorry that train and bus infrastructure isnt "flashy enough" for you. You clearly havent seen the public transport systems in Beijing. The technology we have here is decades behind and so underfunded its infuriating.
This technology purely exists to make human drivers redundant and put the money in the hands of big tech and eventually the ruling class composed off of politicians risk averse capitalists and beurocracy. There is no other explanation for robo taxis to exist. There are better solution like trains and metros which can solve the movement of people from point A to point B easily. It does not come with a 3x-10x capital growth that making human drivers redundant will for the big tech companies.
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At least it's not driving straight into a tree, I call that an improvement.
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If we're gonna let them on the road, I say that software should get points just like a driver, but when it gets suspended all the cars running that software get shut down.
How about we leave the driving to people, and not pre-alpha software?
There's no accountability for this horribly dangerous driving, so they shouldn't be on the road. Period.
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Not great performance at all.
That's better than I was expecting to be perfectly honest.
I'm pretty impressed with the technology, but clearly it's not ready for field use.
Yeah, it's a few years away from being ready. Plus the dumb shits need to backpedal on this "cameras for everything!" idiocy.
I'm surprised the taxis aren't being driven remotely while Musk lies about their amazing AI or whatever.
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lmfao
You can tell it’s a Tesla because of the way it is.
Oof, these highlighted parts from only one video are already enough for me. This looks very stressful, I don't think I could finish a whole ride with one of these.
Don’t worry. It’ll get into a collision before you finish a whole ride.
this would get a normal person's car impounded and drivers license revoked. why can a company get away with it?
Elon has enough fuck-you money to pay off anyone who would've complained.
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Systemic corruption.
Regulatory ~~capture~~ decapitation
It wouldn't say corruption, I think it's more that the law around the road was designed with a driver in mind, not with a company or even a robot. the consequences have been thought to hurt a person at fault because at the time only a person could drive
Its very convenient that corporations can both be people and not be people depending on whatever outcome is best for them.
It is probably being remotely driven from India and they just lost wifi for a minute.
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Sounds like a normal cab driver where I'm from. Need to turn off cabbie mode and turn on Sunday grandma mode.
I’d rather have a car that drives better than a typical cabby or uber driver.
Waymo has arguably been there for a while now. I’ll Uber outside of their coverage area, and take the autonomous car with in it. Every other Uber driver in my area is making late lane choices, tailgating, cutting people off, talking to me about how the world works, etc. The Waymos don’t do any of that shit.
Having experienced FSD, I can honestly say, Waymo’s LiDAR system is way better. It doesn’t do this terrifying shit.
The only difference being you can ask a human cabbie to slow down :,)
Depends. I had this perpetually angry cabby a few months back that when I asked him to slow (son has autism, partially verbal). Not only did he not slow down, he sped up and this was in a snowstorm on the highway. Nothing I could do, if I said anything he went faster. Had a Dr appt so I could do nothing once we were out of that cab. I complained later and best cab co would do is “not send that cab” again.
~~Student~~ Robo drivers, amirite?
One of those American robot cars
I understood that reference
And this is why DOGE gutted the Office for Vehicle Automation Safety at the NHTSA.
I thought that was to economize for expenses?!
So naturally they started with 5 employees in the smallest office of one of the smallest divisions of the NHTSA. Nooooo ulterior motive, nosiree
Yea, I am not surprised given that the regular lane keep is still ghost braking when going under bridges.
Still, I am surprised how well they are doing, using only cameras.
Imagine if they used other sensors than just cameras like the competent companies!
No no no, you don't get it! Humans only have eyes, so cars that only have eyes should perform just as good as humans! Disregard that humans don't perform well in fog or rain or generally anything that isn't good weather and also disregard that to match our eyes' resolution you'd need extremely high resolution cameras that produce way too much data for current computers and also disregard that most of the stuff isn't happening in our eyes but in our brains and also disregard that the point that is usually being made to advocate for self driving cars is that they should be better than humans!
Humans only have eyes, so cars that only have eyes should perform just as good as humans!
Everybody knows that a good driver uses his ass.