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I saw the Tesla Robotaxi:

  • Drive into oncoming traffic, getting honked at in the process.
  • Signal a turn and then go straight at a stop sign with turn signal on.
  • Park in a fire lane to drop off the passenger.

And that was in a single 22 minute ride. Not great performance at all.

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[–] [email protected] 154 points 3 days ago (17 children)

Imagine you're the guy who invented SawStop, the table saw that can detect fingers touching the saw blade and immediately bury the blade in an aluminum block to avoid cutting off someone's finger. Your system took a lot of R&D, it's expensive, requires a custom table saw with specialized internal parts so it's much more expensive than a normal table saw, but it works, and it works well. You've now got it down that someone can go full-speed into the blade and most likely not even get the smallest cut. Every time the device activates, it's a finger saved. Yeah, it's a bit expensive to own. And, because of the safety mechanism, every time it activates you need to buy a few new parts which aren't cheap. But, an activation means you avoided having a finger cut off, so good deal! You start selling these devices and while it's not replacing every table saw sold, it's slowly being something that people consider when buying.

Meanwhile, some dude out of Silicon Valley hears about this, and hacks up a system that just uses a $30 webcam, an AI model that detects fingers (trained exclusively on pudgy white fingers of Silicon Valley executives) and a pinball flipper attached to a rubber brake that slows the blade to a stop within a second when the AI model sees a finger in danger.

This new device, the, "Finger Saver" doesn't work very well at all. In demos with a hotdog, sometimes the hotdog is sawed in half. Sometimes the saw blade goes flying out of the machine into the audience. After a while, the company has the demo down so that when they do it in extremely controlled conditions, it does stop the hotdog from being sawed in half, but it does take a good few chunks out of it before the blade fully stops. It doesn't work at all with black fingers, but the Finger Saver company will sell you some cream-coloured paint that you can paint your finger with before using it if your finger isn't the right shade.

Now, imagine if the media just referred to these two devices interchangeably as "finger saving devices". Imagine if the Finger Saver company heavily promoted their things and got them installed in workshops in high schools, telling the shop teachers that students are now 100% safe from injuries while using the table saw, so they can just throw out all safety equipment. When, inevitably, someone gets a serious wound while using a "Finger Saver" the media goes on a rant about whether you can really trust "finger saving devices" at all.

Anyhow, this is a rant about Waymo vs. Tesla.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Watching anything that fElon fail sparks joy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

A man who can’t launch a rocket to save his life is also incompetent at making self driving cars? His mediocrity knows no bounds.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

To be fair Musk only has money and doesnt Do shit at either Company

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He meddles. That much is apparent. The cybertruck is obviously a top down design as evidenced by the numerous atrocious design compromised the engineers had to make just to make it real. From the glued on "exoskeleton" to the hollowed ALUMINUM frame to the complete lack of physical controls to the default failure state turning it into a coffin to the lack of waterproofing etc.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

It's hilarious to me that Musk claims to work 100 hours a week but he's the CEO of five companies. Even if the claim were true (and of course it isn't) it means being the CEO of one of his companies is a 20-hour-a-week job at best.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Woaw! Damn! The robotaxis are a dangerous fuck up!? That's most surprising thing that happened all year! There's literally no way I could've seen that coming.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So it emulates a standard BMW driver. Well done.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Still work to be done, it uses the blinkers.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago

At least they were used incorrectly to be just as unpredictable.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So, Tesla Robitaxis drive like a slightly drunk and confused tourist with asshole driving etiquette.

Those right turns on red were like, "oh you get to go? That's permission for me to go too!"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I know many people who believe that "right on red" means they have the right of way to make the turn and don't have to stop first or yield to traffic.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

I know many ~~people~~ fucking morons

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Navigation issue / hesitation

The video really understates the level of fuck up that the car did there...

And the guy sitting there just casually being ok with the car ignoring the forced left going straight into oncoming lanes and flipping the steering wheel all over the place because it has no idea what the hell just happened... I would not be just chilling there..

Of course, I wouldn't have gotten in this car in the first place, and I know they cherry picked some hard core Tesla fans to be allowed to ride at all...

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What's crazy is that the safety driver's hair has gone completely grey in just two days.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That safety driver did not give a single fuck about driving on the wrong side of the road..

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

He must have seen so much worse to not even be flinching at that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Sounds like the indian guy driving it with a joystick was a bit hungover. You'd think they'd screen that thing at the entrance of the cubicle farm where all these AI folk drive these from. AI is just "anonymous indians" for elmo's grifting kind.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

Hooray! I feel so safe. I think I'll move to Texas so I can get obliterated by this taxi from the future.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wow that turn signal sound is annoying. Why does it even need to make a sound in a car that’s supposed to be driving itself?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Important feedback for the passenger to ensure the car is actually following the rules. I would freak out at a corner if I couldn't tell the car was signaling.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

The rider shouldn't have to care.

Naturally, simply being in a "self-driving" Tesla is reason enough to worry.

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