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In the wake of the U.S. airstrikes on Iran, Democrats are pointing to Trump's own promises that he wouldn't ensnare the country in foreign conflicts.

Democrats are seizing on Donald Trump’s surprise attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities to make the case that the world is becoming more dangerous on his watch, not less, and that he is reneging on a promise to avoid foreign military interventions.

The argument strikes at Trump’s contention that his blend of negotiating skills and toughness is enough to keep the United States safe.

In the space of a few days, Trump has made the United States a combatant in another Middle East war that exposes soldiers to potential deadly reprisals, Democrats contend.

In a statement, Democratic National Committee Chairman Ken Martin pointed to Trump's inaugural address, in which he said he would measure his success by “the wars we never get into.”

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I swear all these articles ever do is make conversation devolve into "MY OLD MAN IS BETTER THAN YOUR OLD MAN!". I mean look at the comments. It's distracting. At the end of the day, a loophole was found and Orange Chicken Little is going to use it just like the past three presidents did. The Democrats should be pointing the fingers at themselves for not amending the War Powers Act to return all combat engagement decisions back to Congress when they had several chances. The money is too good so they won't do that. Instead they will feed the public this crap and "take the high road".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Honestly who cares. The Democratic party is dead and useless. Stern words and no follow-up. If the Democratic party slightly resembles the 2024 party they're done.

UK is the same, except we don't have anyone to rally behind.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Until Democrats start demanding punishment, I don't want to hear shit about their grandstanding! Fuck em, but fuck the other party way more!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I am not at all surprised that "Biden did not start wars" is their sharpest argument against the regime. Toothless cowards.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

I could see Chuck Schumer smugly saying this with his glasses sliding down his nose.

They aren't seizing on shit. They are saying 'nuh uh! Our old man was better because he fought people who couldn't fight back.'

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Libs would rather lose than confront reality.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Democrats unable to come up with anything else than high school "politics" as usual

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

High school politics are still above republicans kindergarten level insults

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Wow, what a sharp argument 🙄

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Literally the worst argument ever. Biden is a war criminal, he armed genocide. He is no better. Plus many others like Yemen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

While Biden is 100% a supporter of genocide, Trump is all that AND more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

trump is so much worse though

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, the media is turbo-bating in a 24/7 orgy of MAGA worship. We will never control the dialogue or even be heard at all.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago

I have posted it a few times already over the past days: but we need to remember this:

This is the Democratiic parties election platform 2024 (see P82/P83):

Through aggressive diplomacy backed by U.S. military power, the Administration has worked alongside our allies and partners to deter and defend against Iran and its terrorist surrogates. President Biden has postured U.S. military forces in the region and authorized precision airstrikes on key Iranian-linked targets tied to attacks against U.S. troops to deter further aggression by Iran. President Biden has also continued to protect the American people from terrorism, authorizing military strikes that took out ISIS emirs and the leader of Al Qaeda, Ayman al-Zawahiri. In response to brazen attacks by Iranian-linked Houthi forces against international commercial shipping, U.S. naval vessels in the Red Sea, and Israel, President Biden ordered military strikes, alongside key allies, against Houthi targets and organized Operation Prosperity Guardian, a coalition of more than 20 nations committed to defending international shipping and deterring Houthi attacks.

When Iran launched more than 300 missiles and drones against Israel in April 2024, President Biden led an unprecedented defensive coalition – together with partners from Europe and across the Middle East – to defeat the attack, protect Israel, and stop the spread of a wider war. Through direct defensive action by the U.S. military and its partners, Iranian munitions did not cause significant damage, demonstrating both America’s ironclad commitment to the security of Israel and our unrivaled ability to leverage growing regional integration among U.S. partners to counter Iranian aggression.

All of this stands in sharp contrast to Trump's fecklessness and weakness in the face of Iranian aggression during his presidency. In 2018, when Iranian-backed militias repeatedly attacked the U.S. consulate in Basra, Iraq Trump’s only response was to close our diplomatic facility.

They are literally calling Trump "weak" for not engaging militarily enough. This is the same language of Trump of "Peace through strength" and ultimately there is no indication, the Democrats would not have jumped at Netanyahus order to get into the war.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Oh no, not a sharp argument

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

When it comes to foreign policy, remember, Trump is definitely in the Epstein files.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The fuck he didn't. Look up Biden back in 2001 and 2002 on the senate floor screaming about how Iraq had nukes totally frfr pinky sware on me mum. That fucking clown couldn't gobble dick cheney's balls fast enough.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Over 20 years ago, immediately following 9/11. It was a different world back then. How much have you changed in 20+ years?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Yeah 20 years ago he could remember his middle name

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

TBH I wasn't a brainwashed idiot 20 years ago. Biden has always been zio fascist trash. We've been protesting this same garbage for my whole life.

20 years ago? These imperial attacks are at least as old as genociding native americans.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

I really do not appreciate that mental image………

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Sucks that they're lying and whitewashing but hey, at least they're pretending to be anti-war. If we're really lucky, we might even get a candidate in 2028 who says war is bad, and then pivots immediately if elected.

There hasn't been a legitimately anti-war presidential nominee from either party in my lifetime, and there never will be, unless something changes drastically.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tbf Obama was pretty antiwar, until about 5 minutes after his inauguration.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Yep. And we've somehow gone backwards from there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

bluewashing

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