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I have a question that is kind of off topic. If I use a password manager and generally use randomized secure passwords, do passkeys offer any additional security?
By practicing good password behavior, I have struggled to see how the benefits of passkeys out weigh the hassles.
I really want to like Proton and all their shit, but they seem to heavily advertise everything they have on every software and product they have in a very intrusive and annoying way.
Simply logging into Proton mail and being bombarded by Proton promotional shit feels like Google all over again.
The app reminds me constantly that I'm a piece of shit for not supporting them by subscribing to their VPN, etc etc.
I would rather they make money from advertising their own pretty awesome services than from advertising unsustainable (environmentally, but also unsustainable for the fucking soul!) bullshit via blood sucking multinational tech companies that prey on the masses with whatever data they can automatically dig up on you. The revenue Proton makes from converting free customers to paid allows them to grow a freely available service that is a user-friendly and is a technical rival of the surveillance capitalists.
My take is:
And yet I missed their announcement about their passkeys. In today's competitive world, I think any company that does not advertise in some way, is really not going to survive (as much as I don't like ads either). Maybe I don't see that much as I am paying.
I was getting these advertisements, even as a paid user, just before Christmas. Multiple other people have complained about it both here and on Reddit too. It seems to have gotten better now, but I know a few people have been quite turned off by this.
all devices
Lies, there's no Linux app yet. As usual, Proton Inc continues to treat Linux users as third-class citizens, all whilst claiming they care about privacy and security.
Edit: They don't even have a macOS app yet lol.
I'm using the browser add-on in Linux across all my browsers. I do have the Bitwarden app for Linux, but to be honest I never open it as it is a pain to have to open a separate app, and then copy and paste. Isn't it just more seamless to let it replace the browser password manager on Linux? If I want to tidy up my Bitwarden vault, I also do that in the browser.
Passwords are used in more places than just browsers though. If there wasn't any need for a dedicated app, why did they bother making one for Windows?
But personally, I dislike Bitwarden as well. I prefer KeepassXC instead, as it works fully offline and I don't need to depend on a cloud-based provider (or spin up a server). The best part about KeepassXC is that it supports auto-typing credentials, so you don't need to copy-paste - and it works across a multitude of apps, such as remote desktop / terminal sessions.
I have the app and the browser extension. I usually open the extension and copy from there rather than use the app for things outside of the browser. It's just quicker.
This is what I do as well. I always have Firefox running and can easily search the extension for whatever password I need and it is just as easy to copy from there as opening another tool.
That being said the iOS app is great for when I am away from my laptop.
I’m not 100% clear on the pricing. Do I get this for “free” as part of a premium subscription to Proton Mail/Drive/Calendar or is this a separate subscription?
Probably best to see their comparison but free account mainly excludes Integrated 2FA authenticator and only has two vaults, but unlimited logins. I'm on the unlimited account (for VPN and mail) so can't check for sure.
Free for everyone.
Vaultwarden is completely in my hands though
Doesn't Bitwarden already have that feature? https://bitwarden.com/passwordless-passkeys/
Seems that way? Although I can't seem to create a passkey somehow. Or is that how it works? Should I be able to create one on a free Bitwarden plan?
Edit: only on browser extension, got it.
Bitwarden currently only supports storing and using Passkeys via the browser extension. You cannot use them on mobile.
I don't think it has the ability to export/share.
I started using Strongbox on iPhone & Mac for passkey support Bitwarden is still there too, esp for PC, but I may move to an all KeePass setup.
