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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Oh noes, Ukraine did something mean to Russia. Why ever would they do that? What could poor innocent Russia have done to deserve to have Ukraine retaliate? Lol.

Stupid, like Israel wondering why Hamas hates them. You reap what you sow.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

It's a real shame that Russia makes the entirety of Ukraine into an open air prison where they don't even have basic freedoms like praising Hitler or ethnically cleansing Russians

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

what a childish way to look at it lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Russia claims they received cryptocurrency.

Okay, so which currency and which transactions? Crypto has a public ledger, so it should be easily verifiable if these transactions happened.

But obviously, such evidence has not been provided.

Even the claim that they were fleeing to Ukraine is dubious, as a "hero's welcome" would not fall well with the western public (eroding the support they need is not a winning strategy), and the road they were supposedly arrested on leads to Belarus, not Ukraine.

The Russian narrative does not logically add up, and there's no actual evidence at all. Meanwhile, the west preemptively warned the FSB that an attack was imminent (which you wouldn't do if you want the attack to succeed) and named the group behind it, which was backed by evidence (as said group published videos that only they could have taken).

Please keep an open mind. Ask yourself "which is more likely" and make sure the claims you believe are backed with evidence.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Okay, so which currency and which transactions? Crypto has a public ledger, so it should be easily verifiable if these transactions happened.

I'm not sure what you mean by this? Crypto is used specifically because it is difficult to trace transactions, so I doubt there is a clear public record of the transactions, it wouldn't be used for the vast majority of drug sales if it were so easily traceable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The difficulty comes from figuring out who owns which address/wallet. But transactions are entirely public.

See https://help.coinbase.com/en/coinbase/getting-started/crypto-education/what-is-the-bitcoin-blockchain for a simple explanation. Anyone can trace any bitcoin/cryptocoin or whatever from address to address. But that doesn't tell you who owns the addresses (which is where the drug users come in).

Once you figure out who owns specific address, you can trace every one of their transactions. It's part of crypto being a public, decentralised network.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That sounds...completely the opposite of the bullshit of what I've heard from cryptobros lol. But thanks for the info, though I'm still not sure how crypto can be used to smuggle drugs if it is all as public as this article claims it is.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

It's public but if your country doesn't regulate cryptocurrencies heavily, you might be able to use it to anonymously move money. Sure it's public, but you don't know who 0xdeadbeef2537494946 is

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

"Soviet Reporter" is a pretty stupid name 😂 those simps are all propaganda pushers and a wretched bunch of serfs. Piss outta here with you stupid propaganda boy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

How is it that they seem to be acting in such a way that Russia not only has nukes but the largest stockpile in the world.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Some more interesting stuff:

"West protests too much about Kiev’s possible role in Moscow terror attack – Lavrov" https://www.rt.com/russia/595090-west-suspiciously-denying-ukraine-crocus/

The intensity of their insistence on Ukraine’s innocence is unusual, the Russian foreign minister has said

“The West is actively trying to convince everyone that this is the work of ISIS and there is no longer any need to suspect anyone, especially Ukraine,” Lavrov told Izvestiya in a video interview published on Friday. “They keep insisting that Kiev is not to blame, to the point where it’s becoming obsessive.”

“We have repeatedly said that we do not make any final conclusions until the investigation is completed. The investigation is still working on the facts, new circumstances are being revealed, but we simply do not have the right to exclude obvious possibilities,” the foreign minister said.

Meanwhile, Lavrov said, the West is “suspiciously active” in trying to persuade everyone that Ukraine had nothing to do with the attack.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

maybe because it was clear very early on that the kremlin would try and pin this on ukraine

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

It's really unfair of Russia to suggest Ukraine might have done a terrorist attack just because of all the other terrorist attacks Ukraine has been doing with CIA support for the last decade

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Got a non RT source, not that I doubt this, but libs will immediately go "RT is state backed" or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It doesn't matter. The source of the claims is the Russian government. That automatically discredits it in the minds of liberals whether it's Russian media, Chinese, Turkish, or French.

Especially since the entire west has been going suspiciously hard from day one on "this was ISIS-K, no one else, Ukraine is not involved" being repeatedly parroted with the subtext that any suggestion otherwise is Russian propaganda and excusing escalation towards Ukraine. Day two they were already accusing Putin of using the attack to justify an increased response to Ukraine and calling it crazy.

It's unfalsifiable. If the Russians say it then they're liars because they're Russians and evil Putin is a dictator who maybe did it himself to get at Ukraine or something for some reason. If a western source says it they're Russian agents, been duped by Russia, are doing Russia's dirty work. There is no win here if you're trapped in the liberal paradigm of the aggressor Russians and Putin as a modern Hitler.

The sources for the investigation into the money are not going to be something open source intelligence can discern, you're not going to likely have reporters able to get access to trace money the way a government intelligence agency can so by its nature it's what government do you trust.

All you can do is point to people with ISIS patches pictured in Ukraine. Can point to old stories about Turkey opening a corridor for fighters (including ISIS but not usually mentioned) to go from Syria to Ukraine to fight Russians. Can point to the inconsistencies in this attack's methods of operation and past ISIS and islamic extremist tendencies and point to the Ukrainian regime's history of targeting civilians in drone attacks even deep in Russia. All things liberals will brush aside and deny.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Big facts tbh

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

For an example of that, look at the lib comment below!

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