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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The only good thing that could ever come from climate change is Florida being flooded out of existence.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

@GlennicusM @ProdigalFrog Perhaps, but then we'd have a bunch of displaced legislative malefactors infiltrating other state governments

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

You're right.

We should build a wall.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

But that's all right cuz they'll just sell their homes to aquaman.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

They really gonna be cryin' once their 'Glade homes sink. Only then will they backpedal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I disagree. They will find a way to still be right while blaming the problem on others. Alternatively it’ll be like giant forests. Cut one down and that open space seems perfectly fine to the children who never saw the forest that used to be there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

The literal equivalent of sticking your head in the mud.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The free market will just make living there unaffordable because it cannot be insured anymore.

Without dikes, levees, and a proper system to alleviate water issues, Florida will return to the sea. And Florida man will have to move elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Exactly.

Florida about to erase climate change from its laws?

That's fine. Climate change will erase Florida using the laws of nature.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

How did florida become a shithole btw? As a european for a long time i thought florida was a hotspot for queer culture.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

It's not. Yeah, we slipped right after voting for Obama twice, but we're far, far better off than the majority of red states. See: Mississippi, Louisianna, West Virginia, Oklahoma, well, about every one except Texas is worse off than us.

You hear a lot of shit about Florida for 3 reasons:

  • Our governor is a complete ass yet caught national attention as a possible Presidential candidate to run against Trump. He's spent a lot of time trying to go as radical right as possible.
  • Our Sunshine Laws are very liberal. The whole Florida Man meme comes from journalists have broad access to arrest and other records.
  • We're the 3rd most populous state. A lot goes on here. Also, the state is HUGE and wildly varied.
[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Vox did a decent video on how the Republicans came to power there in the past decade, since it was traditionally a purple state (50/50 for either party).

[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (4 children)

From what I hear, it's left wing in the big cities, right wing everywhere else. And the electorates or whatever they call them are Gerrymandered so that the right wing areas have more voting power than the left wing. Basically the local government is doing everything they can to keep in power, shitty or not.

Don't quote me though. I'm an Aussie and it's only my probably biased opinion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

This always gets me. WTF has the Democratic Party been doing this whole time? It seems like they are always caught by surprise that conservatives are doing shitty stuff. Why is their messaging so incredibly shit? Why do they suck so bad at being the opposition?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

They don't spend much money or effort on Florida, that's why. Also, Conservatives are actively moving to Florida in droves (largely from California), seeing it as some kind of bastion for their extremism and bigotry. If they spent the time and effort needed to change things in Florida, the rest of the candidates across the nation would suffer.

And as for the national efforts, Dems are still run by the same milquetoast moderates who think their privilege affords them the leeway to simply hope the extremist problem on the Right will just go away, rather than face the fact that it's a cancer that will only grow if left unchecked.

As for messaging, I have no idea why they suck so much at messaging. They should take a hard look in the mirror and hire some new talent.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As a Floridian, I can say you're spot on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not really, you guys are voting in DeSantis for governor and that's not something that can be gerrymandered. The cities may be more liberal than the country, but FL is a GOP state at this point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

The Dems basically threw the last gubernatorial election by running Charlie Crist as their candidate, who was formerly a Republican governor in Florida who later changed parties. Gotta be the stupidest political move I've ever seen by the DNC. Even still, Tallahassee and Orlando voted for him.

In the last presidential election, Tallahassee, Tampa, Jacksonville, West Palm Beach, and Miami all voted for Biden. That is why people say the cities are liberal, and they're correct. I know this from life experience anecdotally, and backed up with stats. However, I do not think the state is suffering from gerrymandering. It's more suffering from the poor state of our education system that leaves the rural areas to rely on mainstream cable news and their family's opinions to determine who to vote for, which leans to the right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Why do you think people gerrymander? Do they get money for it?

Seems strange to me to go into US politics to then to be anti democratic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Are you asking why people who want to hoarde power would try to corrupt a system that resists their attempt to hoarde power?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

They get power from it (and money), that's enough reason for many to be anti democratic

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's far right everywhere else, and rightwing in the city. Democrats aren't a left leaning party.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's such a missed opportunity. Climate change could be used as a blanket excuse for a boon in technology, construction, transport network development, urban redesign, an agricultural revolution and all the investment, tourism, etc that would come with that. Adapting our communities and ways of life toward a sustainable world could be an awesome process and something to celebrate. Any politician that sees this and runs with it will look like a hero for relatively little effort.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

They wouldn't be heros to their donors, who have a lot invested (literally) in keeping things burning (also literally).

[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's only fair. After all, climate change is going to erase Florida.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

My first thought as well.

Reality kind of has this way of not giving a fuck about politics.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lol, why not make climate change illegal? That was only the criminals would change the climate

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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