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How did florida become a shithole btw? As a european for a long time i thought florida was a hotspot for queer culture.
It's not. Yeah, we slipped right after voting for Obama twice, but we're far, far better off than the majority of red states. See: Mississippi, Louisianna, West Virginia, Oklahoma, well, about every one except Texas is worse off than us.
You hear a lot of shit about Florida for 3 reasons:
Vox did a decent video on how the Republicans came to power there in the past decade, since it was traditionally a purple state (50/50 for either party).
From what I hear, it's left wing in the big cities, right wing everywhere else. And the electorates or whatever they call them are Gerrymandered so that the right wing areas have more voting power than the left wing. Basically the local government is doing everything they can to keep in power, shitty or not.
Don't quote me though. I'm an Aussie and it's only my probably biased opinion.
This always gets me. WTF has the Democratic Party been doing this whole time? It seems like they are always caught by surprise that conservatives are doing shitty stuff. Why is their messaging so incredibly shit? Why do they suck so bad at being the opposition?
They don't spend much money or effort on Florida, that's why. Also, Conservatives are actively moving to Florida in droves (largely from California), seeing it as some kind of bastion for their extremism and bigotry. If they spent the time and effort needed to change things in Florida, the rest of the candidates across the nation would suffer.
And as for the national efforts, Dems are still run by the same milquetoast moderates who think their privilege affords them the leeway to simply hope the extremist problem on the Right will just go away, rather than face the fact that it's a cancer that will only grow if left unchecked.
As for messaging, I have no idea why they suck so much at messaging. They should take a hard look in the mirror and hire some new talent.
Are you dogwhistling some antisemitic shit with those extra parentheses?
That's a conspiracy theory, and demonstrably false based on voting records.
The only similarity is in how both capitulate to wealthy lobbyists, but to whom and to what degree are still different by orders of magnitude.
They aren’t even hiding the conspiracy, openly using scare parentheses
As a Floridian, I can say you're spot on.
Not really, you guys are voting in DeSantis for governor and that's not something that can be gerrymandered. The cities may be more liberal than the country, but FL is a GOP state at this point.
The Dems basically threw the last gubernatorial election by running Charlie Crist as their candidate, who was formerly a Republican governor in Florida who later changed parties. Gotta be the stupidest political move I've ever seen by the DNC. Even still, Tallahassee and Orlando voted for him.
In the last presidential election, Tallahassee, Tampa, Jacksonville, West Palm Beach, and Miami all voted for Biden. That is why people say the cities are liberal, and they're correct. I know this from life experience anecdotally, and backed up with stats. However, I do not think the state is suffering from gerrymandering. It's more suffering from the poor state of our education system that leaves the rural areas to rely on mainstream cable news and their family's opinions to determine who to vote for, which leans to the right.
Why do you think people gerrymander? Do they get money for it?
Seems strange to me to go into US politics to then to be anti democratic.
Are you asking why people who want to hoarde power would try to corrupt a system that resists their attempt to hoarde power?
They get power from it (and money), that's enough reason for many to be anti democratic
It's far right everywhere else, and rightwing in the city. Democrats aren't a left leaning party.