Apple

They’re like republicans. They feel threatened and have to lash out. I feel for them.

Yeah, I've run into this before as well. I had a post I made in the standard notes community about a sale get down voted...

I made another post asking what happened and that's how I found out it was down voted by a bunch of people that weren't even part of the community because "it looked like an ad on their feed."

I also had some user error on my part when I added the Zed RSS feed to Auto Post Bot without taking enough precautions to make sure it wasn't going to post ancient stuff... Got some pretty heavy down votes presumably because it took about a page and a half of the "all" feed. I cleaned things up within 15 minutes, but it was definitely like "man, can I just not deal with people that aren't even community members?"

Don't get me wrong their frustration was valid, I screwed up, but also... I just don't understand browsing all.

Absolutely. I've come to realize that you just can't have a positively minded, widely federated community on Lemmy about something the majority of active users across the system feel negatively about. It's a shame, but I might just end up filtering the community and waiting for better times.

Anyone else feel me on this? I imagine this is a problem for other communities on Lemmy as well.

Ok, I’ll bite … as always, it’s a problem with too little content on Lemmy. Certain other social media platforms have so much content that you have to stay in your lane if you’re going to follow it all. However Lemmy is still too small for many specialized communities. Of course many of us will just browse all. The answer, as always, is continued growth.

Circling back to the Community’s purpose, I dislike the frequent logouts in Lemmy. I don’t know if there’s something about browsing from iPad on Safari, but sometimes it’s just too annoying to keep logging in again, so I’m stuck browsing all until something warrants a reply.

I vaguely remember a privacy thing that IOS would periodically modify its appearance online to reduce tracking: could we be running afoul of that? Granted, it’s a pretty vague memory that I’m clutching at

100%

I’m fine with Apple getting criticism. It’s often deserved, but what really sets me off is the vitriol commenters direct at users instead of the company. F me for liking my working environment as much as you do yours.

Lemmy is full of Linux and Windows users that are very anti-Apple. While I can appreciate constructive criticism from Apple users, I find it pretty annoying when these other folks drop in on threads and just spew nonsense.

It's annoying sometimes, but it's also pretty easy to recognize and ignore. Usually some variation of "you can't even XYZ in OSX and that's been a feature of whatever-I-use forever."

Vague? Check. Outdated Nomenclature? Check. Circlejerk Popular Opinion on Lemmy? Oh that's a big check.

I'm getting good enough at it now that I usually don't even need to read half the comment before knowing it's going to be worthless, downvote it, and move on.

Here's hoping for better mod tools and a more diverse set of users as time passes. I'd love to get back to arguing that making all the ports on the MacBook Pro Thunderbolt ports was a way better idea than kowtowing to photographers who can't be arsed to update their habits is (spoiler, I lose and get downvoted but still think I'm right), but I can wait.

Anyone else feel me on this? I imagine this is a problem for other communities on Lemmy as well.

Yes. 100%. It’s always combative, condescending, and rarely, if ever, from actual enthusiasts. Just the other day, someone started a comment with “I have never liked Apple after the bullshit it pulled with iTunes” talking about the iPhone and suggesting that he was a counter-example to people switching to iPhone from Android. He’s openly admitting that he has a bias against Apple that existed before the iPhone was even released and yet, for some reason, felt the need to participate in an “Apple enthusiast” discussion.

Apple obviously doesn’t do everything right but the amount of engagement here from people who don’t use Apple products is far too high for an enthusiast community. It would be like someone going into a community for motorcycle enthusiasts and constantly talking about how cars are better and safer.

Yes you can. It's a tradeoff/balance and not limited to just Apple (see neurodivergent, women, trans- oriented communities). If you gatekeep too hard then you lose out on vibrant discussion and it's a ghost town. If it's too popular on All then you get many of the same "popular" narratives being voted up, lots of arguing and so on.

I try to be aware of the community I'm on before commenting and follow in spirit. So I try to keep my opinions relatively brief in areas I'm not involved in.

Overall i think it increases engagement which in turn keeps people motivated to continue to post here. As long as I can keep getting timely news and advice, I'm all for it. I don't use apple products because I want validation from fediversers; I use them because they are the best devices for my use cases.

Other people are free to disagree. It doesn't cost me anything to just keep scrolling if I see Apple "hate mail".

In my household we use only iPhones, Macs, Apple TV, AirPods, Apple Watch etc. I use their products because I find them better than the alternatives. I also contribute plenty of posts critical of Apple here. I want them to do better because they're very hostile to consumers and developers.

I own a ton of Apple products and I’m rooting for the DOJ

Anyone else feel me on this? I imagine this is a problem for other communities on Lemmy as well.

nah mate. Would describe me as an enthusiast but still think that Apple shits the bed pretty often, is charging way too much and could do a lot better in hardware and software.

So as already mentioned, Apple's biggest enthusiasts are also its biggest critics.