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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Lights on boat began to flicker before incident, suggesting some sort of power failure. Steering a full size car without power steering is possible, but spoiler, steering a huge container ship ain't.

Someone commented that exhaust increased noticably as well, possibly because pilot put ship in reverse after losing power (with prop walk veering the ship into the support).

All just people talking on the Internet at present, but "asleep at the wheel" isn't necessarily what happened.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 7 months ago (18 children)

Lights on boat began to flicker before incident, suggesting some sort of power failure. Steering a full size car without power steering is possible, but spoiler, steering a huge container ship ain't.

Someone commented that exhaust increased noticably as well, possibly because pilot put ship in reverse after losing power (with prop walk veering the ship into the support).

All just people talking on the Internet at present, but "asleep at the wheel" isn't necessarily what happened.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Roughly 20 people are still missing. Water is almost 0 degrees. I think this will be the death toll.

I also wonder how TF this happened.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

The temperature in the river was about 47 degrees Fahrenheit (8 degrees Celsius) in the early hours of Tuesday, according to a buoy that collects data for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Edited to add:
Replies seem to think that I think 8°C water isn't cold or dangerous. I don't think that.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Usually, this would be deleted for not being a news article.

OP, please link to the link below, and I'll let it stay.

https://lemmy.world/post/13553444

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Im sorry, i wasnt aware of that rule. I just wasnt seeing a video up on here at the time so i grabbed one off the live stream to post for others to see. I posted the link you gave in the description instead of the main url so people can still quickly pull it up. If theres a problem still ill do what i can to change it, or you can go ahead and delete this post since there are now more videos and such up online.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nope. You did great. Our rules state that a post must contain a link to an article. Keeping the video as primary, and adding a link as the comment suffices. We usually don't give the warning, but I felt that your post added good context for the news surrounding the breaking news.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

You guys (mods) are doing a helluva good job. A very civil request for the OP to correct the slight omission, encouragement and polite follow up, didn't just silently delete the post.

Kudos!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Holy crap! That went down way more quickly than I expected.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

I feel like the whole thing shouldn't have come down as easy as it did...

Edit: Nevermind, I didn't realize how large this ship actually is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

"Thicc boats can't break steel beams."

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

if you ever made a bridge out of toothpicks in school, the lesson is how much force it can hold straight up and down. Something super heavy whacking at its side while also dead on nailing one of the major support structures.... yeah thing crumbled like toothpicks

[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago (1 children)

i feel like giant ships shouldn't be hitting the supports of a bridge

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don't think integrity after getting a support annihilated by a massive ship is a reasonable design objective. You'd need way more supports and structure, at least doubling the weight and cost of the structure, I'd guess maybe 4x. As far as stress tests go, getting one of your two supports knocked out is an extremely stressing condition.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I learned recently that in engineering there’s a saying that anyone can build a bridge that will stand, but only an engineer can build a bridge that barely stands.

Which seems dark, but bridges are built on budgets while adhering to aesthetic, material, and site/traffic (on, under, and sometimes over) requirements.

And besides, that ship was between 210 to 257 million pounds, traveling at whatever speed it was going. I’m not a physicist, but I recon that’s enough force to knock down a bridge. (As evidenced.)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Baltimore Truthers, already?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I took it as less of "gubment did it" and more "holy shit that bridge seems shoddy as fuck"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

They are the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A container ship like that weighs more than the bridge tower it hit.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It is likely to disrupt shipping in a major US port. This will have repercussions throughout the economy until the port is fully reopened.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Woof... Found a map of the area, and yeah, you can route around the collapse, but the next closest crossing is a ways away...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

And the tunnels (I-895 and I-95) forbid things like propane, so if you have some of that, you're off to the west side of the Baltimore Beltway, which is already extremely busy. Good luck with that!

(Relatively local person here who travels around Baltimore frequently. I've used the bridge that collapsed on several occasions to avoid the tunnels while carrying propane.)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Now imagine shipping traffic! Lots of deliveries not happening this week!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Dundalk and Sparrow's Point is basically all distribution centers now.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago

Oof.... the traffic is gonna be hellish there for the foreseeable future.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Holy fuck! It took the whole thing down! That shipping company is going to be sued into oblivion

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm thinking there will be many more parties to that lawsuit... Foremost insurers. And their re-insurers.

However right now it looks like this ship suffered a mechanical failure, so if I had a business in ship building/maintenance you bet I'd be calling everyone in the company to get confirmation that that ship was not on our customer list. And if it was I'd already be in an all-hands meeting with engineering and legal.

If I was in charge of whichever government entity is in charge of maritime traffic, I'd be discretely asking why the fuck boats big enough to bring a bridge down by slowly booping into it were allowed to be boating under the bridge. I would refute responsibility of course... but some maritime traffic rule changes might happen down the line.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Will probably take a couple of insurance companies down too!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago

At least something good will come of it then

[–] [email protected] 75 points 7 months ago (2 children)

There were people on it! Not a whole lot of cars since it happened a couple hours ago. But there were around 50 people working on it at the time. Its so devastating.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

That's insane. I heard about this on NPR this morning, but I didn't picture the bridge being so big. Glad it was early when there weren't hundreds more people on it.

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