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This toggle is annoying because what was once 1 press to turn on BT is now 2. It gets me every day.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

This is part of why is think stock android is now trash. I'll stick to oem skins for now

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

And then they don't toggle where you want to toggle (a connect / disconnect on each device) so you have to tap and guess or open settings anyway

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

What version are you on? 15? I'm on 14, and for me it's as it ever was. Also, can you replace it by editing the Shortcuts? I was able to replace the Internet thingy with separate toggles for Mobile Data/WiFi by doing that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm on 14 on a Google pixel 6 pro. I tried what you suggested but there's no option to alter it, but thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (20 children)

I don't want to go conspiracy theory, but in my opinion it feels like a dark pattern to increase the time people have Bluetooth on. I believe they did the same thing with success for Wi-Fi. If I recall correctly, even when you are not connected to a device, Google can estimate your location based on what Wi-Fi networks you are in proximity to and something to varying degrees might work for Bluetooth as well which is why they also roll the feature over to the Bluetooth toggle

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is definitely it. This article is from 2019, so it has probably evolved a lot since then.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/14/opinion/bluetooth-wireless-tracking-privacy.html

In addition to the profits from earphones, this is probably another reason for the removal of the headphone jack.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Fuck this noise! Hate it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I Fucking Hate It!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Fuck Google's recent changes to the quick settings panel, really. Especially now that One UI 6 didn't revert those changes like it was done with One UI 5.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It follows the pattern for WiFi/Internet.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

I miss the 6 small buttons

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling this way.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

?

Does it not turn on Bluetooth before opening that menu?

It does for me.

Bluetooth on: single tap turns it off.

Bluetooth off: single tap turns it on and opens that menu so you can select a device to connect to. (it still connects to the last connected device automatically) From there tapping back or tapping beside it closes it.

Been that way for several years now. (Samsung A54, and A52 prior to this one)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Not on my Pixel 8. Single tap on the Bluetooth button only opens the Bluetooth connection screen with a separate toggle to actually turn on Bluetooth once you're in there. Google likes to do things the hard way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Ah... Google devices...

I'm much less confused.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I honestly thought this was my own doing and was about to go insane when I couldn't find the setting to revert this. Why on earth would they do this.......

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

I've felt this a lot over the years. Regressions in interface designs happen here and there, and I feel it's just people justifying their jobs. We have to change this, and that, and EVERYTHING, to keep it fresh. Where in reality, sometimes only some things need changing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I put buttons on screens for people at work and I'm imagining the fury that would rain down on me if I put 2 buttons in place do a normal thing that was once one button. I would never hear the end of it.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I have the opposite. I have never a reason to turn off Bluetooth, but always want to connect of disconnect devices. this is so much better than long pressing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I was like you once until I got a speaker for the bathroom and now the wife and I fight over it...

If we both have BT on, the speaker will connect to the last phone which is almost always the wrong one... And then the yelling fest starts so the other turns it off

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Supermarkets and malls etc, use Bluetooth beacons to track, and profile you. I'm always turning mine off, when in those kind of places.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I think this is the reason why Google implemented it. They already track you over Wi-Fi when you do not explicitly turn off the option, so Bluetooth is going the same route

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah. That's my use case as well. I rather liked this. Even if I want to turn off BT, this is just one small button more that's almost underneath the fingertip on my phone when you press the bt.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (5 children)

My wife's car is extremely aggressive. The second she turns it on, it steals my Bluetooth connection. I could be mowing my lawn, listening to music on my phone, then suddenly hear nothing, and it's because my wife got in her car and was suddenly blasted with my tunes.

I tell my phone to forget her car's Bluetooth connection, but then I'm constantly harassed by pop-ups on my phone every minute saying her car wants to pair with my phone. I can't get it to stop pinging me. It sees a Bluetooth device in range and then spams it, trying to connect.

So yes, I like to keep my Bluetooth off until I want to use it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does she have a mazda?? Mine does the same thing 😅

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like your phone is top priority. Either clear it off the car or move her's up to the top spot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Some cars it doesn't matter - it will attempt to connect to whatever device it sees.

If it happens to see his first, it connects.

I've seen these problems for years with integrated BT in cars. I hate it.

The best answer I've found is to pair, then turn off all connectivity within that Bluetooth connection on my phone.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Have a dig through the cars Bluetooth settings and see if you can delete the pairing from that end.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

It's a pain if you share a car. Whoever starts the car gets to interrupt the other one's phone call.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've done that, but it still pings every Bluetooth connection it sees, whether it recognizes it or not.

Her car had some class-action lawsuit recently because its integrated satellite radio service was constantly pinging for a connection, whether you had the service or not. If the car wasn't driven in a few days, the battery would be completely drained. And you couldn't jump it yourself; it had to be towed to a shop so they could use some special machine to jump and charge it.

That issue has been settled, but now its Bluetooth is basically doing the same thing. Fortunately only while the car is on, but still.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Hmm. Well that sucks.

Personally; I refuse to connect a phone to a car via Bluetooth. Too many reports of cars harvesting every available bit of info it can access from the connection and storing/uploading it inaccessible/immovable to the owner.

Aux cable, fm transmitter, or deal with the radio.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tell the car to forget your phone?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

That's a temporary fix, because oop may drive that car at times as well. I have the exact same problem

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah they built this UI on the assumption that people didn't turn off their BT generally. This is an improvement for me but I really don't see why they can't make it an option for people.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It's not an assumption. They obviously have telemetry that shows the vast majority of people never turn Bluetooth or WiFi off.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ummm... this also happened for WiFi as far as I can tell...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Yeah I don't turn that off generally either but you're right the wifi panel has been like this for a bit and now it's consistent.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I turn it off daily. I have 2 phones and I don't want to connect my personal phone to my BT speaker at work. I can see where you're coming from though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't want to connect my personal phone to my BT speaker at work

I'm confused, do you shuttle the same speaker between work and home or is work a separate speaker? If it's a separate speaker why don't you just delete it's pairing from your personal phone?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I just leave it at work. I will do that lol. I forgot I could do that, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

this entire quick actions shade was redesigned either for children or for elders

the space now used for 4 quick actions could fit 12 quick actions before

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was just grumbling about this today. It's one of those little changes that might help someone, but interrupts a flow that worked well for me.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

Same. I was sure it's me doing something wrong.
But I don't even like those larger icons. I want the smaller circles like before.

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