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Fascists only leave power one way
Can we please take this opportunity to introduce an amendment to the constitution to make it a criminal offense to issue curfews or martial law?
Trump needs to watch Civil War
He should be made to participate in one.
He wants to machine gun Americans
That’s a lot of nazis.
This country has already crossed the Rubicon after the events of January 6th in my opinion. What’s we saw in LA was the declaration of war from this administration on its own people. We need to unite, fight, and stand against this tyrannical regime. If the White House is afraid of us now just you wait you pos’s.
Remember historically successful resitances don't meet the enemy on an open front. They harrass and kill individuals. Soldiers that are alone, at home, and at the bar have historically been targets
I'm all for this
In addition, the Secretary of Defense may employ any other members of the regular Armed Forces as necessary to augment and support the protection of Federal functions and property in any number determined appropriate in his discretion.
Because fuck the Posse Comitatus Act
Yup, but that line was crossed when he federalized National Guard troops for domestic policing. Federalized National Guard troops are legally the same as active duty military, both are title 10 troops and are restricted in their domestic use to the same degree. There is legally no difference between federalized National Guard and any active duty military, including tier one special forces as far as posse comitatus. This is a flagrant and illegal abuse of emergency powers.
Yup. And so he can purge anyone that doesn't follow orders. This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.
You are not going to get fucknuts rump out of there by buying him a McD’s burger that is for sure.
No no no. When push comes to shove the heroic military will fight against fascism. Ignore all the fucking evidence to the contrary and support the troops.
It takes active recruitment if we want the military on the side of the people.
They should stop lying and using recruits as guinea pigs then
MAYBE that would have worked on the "I just want to go to college" Desert Storm kids.
We spent the better part of 20 years at continual war training an army to commit atrocities in the name of "peace keeping". Anybody joining under those circumstances either started out brainwashed ("My daddy and his daddy and his daddy were all marines!") or are basically cops who just want an excuse to wave a gun around.
At best? We are looking at the equivalent of trotting out liz cheney at the DNC. Sure there are "moderates" who might be won over. But the moment they hear that somebody doesn't like whatever "moderate" belief they have they'll go straight maga and then insist it is your fault for not winning their vote by slaughtering a few trans kids.
"What makes the green grass grow?!”
I'd say the vast majority of people in the military these days are poor kids looking for an escape to cyclical poverty.
Yes, if they live through it, talking about everything from food, to housing, "vaccines", and God knows what else. I'm not antivax either.
Even that is fading because the tendency to fuck over the VA is so known.
That said: the people whose entire existence depends on pulling the trigger ain't walking away because it might hurt the people who they kind of rightfully feel already abandoned them.
Not wrong. At "best," we'll see a fracturing of the military...which could be much more trouble than it's worth. I'd expect a small wave of resignations/desertions (since resignation for an officer takes a long time). The remainder of good people will actively try to avoid and sea-lawyer their way out of doing any damage to civilians without violating orders. There will be a good chunk who will happily fire on US civilians, though.
Resignations are only useful in the short term.
In the long term, Resignations provide new opportunities for the loyal to gain power and recruit.
Yep, but those who resign for moral reasons will be more likely to take actual actions to protest/stop what's happening. The military will have a hard time recruiting competent people in that environment, though, and the people taking the vacancies will likely have diminishing competence as time goes on.
To put it in perspective, if more officers retire at 20, they'll generally be O-5s (Lieutenant Colonels or Commanders), and so the next year's promotion cycle will need to promote more O-4s to cover the vacancies. This will then trickle down, and suddenly, you have officers who have been O-3s for just a couple of years being promoted to O-4 rather than waiting longer and gaining experience.
In that scenario, there will be less efficiency in planning and execution and far more incompetence, and if being used against civilians, more brutality. But incompetence is easier to defeat in the long run. Seeing the incompetence and brutality will deprive the military of the smartest recruits who staff the important IT, intelligence, cyber, etc. communities. So, while they may get true believers, a lower proportion will be competent.
No matter how it shakes out, it will get very bad.
Yep, but those who resign for moral reasons will be more likely to take actual actions to protest/stop what’s happening
No. They won't. Or, to be more blunt, the people who would actually be useful won't. Because they are the ones who understand the world isn't Call of Duty and a single guy with a pistol isn't actually going to Jack Bauer his way through an entire armed escort.
The military will have a hard time recruiting competent people
They already do. That is why the military is dumb as a door knob and full of the kind of people who just want an excuse to shoot some folk whether they are brown or not.
This will then trickle down, and suddenly, you have officers who have been O-3s for just a couple of years being promoted to O-4 rather than waiting longer and gaining experience.
Oh, well then. That will solve everything.
Breathe. We will get through this, and how is question worth considering, as the commenter above did. If you need to share this burden of despair with someone, my DMs are open.
We convince officers and other respected leaders to coup at the right time at the right signal.
But we also accept that the Grunts and dumbasses are gonna dumbass. Maybe you can get like an E-8 or E-9 on our side but don't give much effort to E-3 or E-5.
But sitting around hoping that the military just magically appears on our side (that leans hard into Libertarianism at best and outright far right hooo rah at worst) is dumb.
The ASVAB was pretty basic when I took it. Fortunately, a health condition at the time kept me from basic.
Yeah, anyone thinking that there is even a remotely fair election in 2026 and again in 2028 really should come and take a look at that bridge in my backyard that I'm selling...
how big is it
How much? I only got thee fiddy
Don't worry , all of this means that somehow the stock market will rally on Monday and that's really all that matters.