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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This seems like it could be a viable replacement for many plastics, but it isn't the silver bullet I feel that the article is acting as if it is.

From the linked article in the post:

the new material is as strong as petroleum-based plastics but breaks down into its original components when exposed to salt.

Those components can then be further processed by naturally occurring bacteria, thereby avoiding generating microplastics

The plastic is non-toxic, non-flammable, and does not emit carbon dioxide, he added.

This is great. Good stuff. Wonderful.

From another article (this shows that this isn't as recent, too. This news was from many months ago)

the team was able to generate plastics that had varying hardnesses and tensile strengths, all comparable or better than conventional plastics.

Plastics like these can be used in 3D printing as well as medical or health-related applications.

Wide applications and uses, much better than a lot of other proposed solutions. Still good so far.

After dissolving the initial new plastic in salt water, they were able to recover 91% of the hexametaphosphate and 82% of the guanidinium as powders, indicating that recycling is easy and efficient.

Easy to recycle and reclaim material from. Great! Not perfect, but still pretty damn good.

In soil, sheets of the new plastic degraded completely over the course of 10 days, supplying the soil with phosphorous and nitrogen similar to a fertilizer.

You could compost these in your backyard. Who needs the local recycling pickup for plastics when you can just chuck it in a bin in the back? Still looking good.

using polysaccharides that form cross-linked salt bridges with guanidinium monomers.

Polysaccharides are literally carbohydrates found in food.

This is really good. Commonly found compound, easy to actually re-integrate back into the environment. But now the problems start. They don't specify much about the guanidinium monomers in their research in terms of which specific ones are used, so it's hard to say the exact implications, but...

...they appear to often be toxic, sometimes especially to marine life, soil quality, and plant growth, and have been used in medicine with mixed results as to their effectiveness and safety.

I'm a bit disappointed they didn't talk about this more in the articles, to be honest. It seems this would definitely be better than traditional plastic in terms of its ecological effects, but still much worse than not dumping it in the ocean at all. In my opinion, in practice it looks like this would simply make the recycling process much more efficient (as mentioned before, a 91% and 82% recovery rate for plastics is much better than the current average of less than 10%) while reducing the overall harm from plastic being dumped in the ocean, even if it's still not good enough to eliminate the harm altogether.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What does it dissolve into? 🪿 Wait, what does it dissolve into? 🗣️ 🪿

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

It dissolves into salt water.

Except it doesn't dissolve, this is not the term they should be using, you can't just dry out the water and get the plastic back. It breaks down into other things. I'm pretty sure an ocean full of dissolved plastic would be a way worse ecological disaster than the current microplastic problem...

I've seen like 3-4 articles about this now and they all use the term dissolve and it's pissing me off.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From the article:

Aida said the new material is as strong as petroleum-based plastics but breaks down into its original components when exposed to salt. Those components can then be further processed by naturally occurring bacteria, thereby avoiding generating microplastics that can harm aquatic life and enter the food chain.

As salt is also present in soil, a piece about five centimetres (two inches) in size disintegrates on land after over 200 hours, he added.

The material can be used like regular plastic when coated, and the team are focusing their current research on the best coating methods, Aida said. The plastic is non-toxic, non-flammable, and does not emit carbon dioxide, he added.

So I think the next thing the goose wants to know is, what's it being coated with?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Is it made of snails?

(/s, in case anyone wants to take that seriously)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That was my first thought, a tide pod also rapidly dissolves in sea water, we shouldn't be dumping those in the ocean though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But then how will we maintain the ocean breeze scent?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The tweenagers hosing on Axe in coastal cities will take care of that I think.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Does it actually break down? Or does it just melt into a cloud of microplastics?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago

They developed plastic that desolves in seawater in hours. Well if it were that easy they should have started developing that a bit sooner and we wouldnt be in this mess.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Let’s build a ship out of it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

And then tow it outside the environment.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

"Oil tanker spills 60,000 tons of crude into the Pacific after hull biodegrades, more at 6"

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And are we gonna start using this on a mainstream scale?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We use plenty of biodegradable plastics. They’re not always the correct solution. You wouldn’t want an airplane biodegrading, for example.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

they might not be even biodegradable, not unless they separated which is impossible to do

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I’d love that actually. While I’m flying preferably

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Ok, back to non~biodegradable plastics and fuck this innovation

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