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Mike Dulak grew up Catholic in Southern California, but by his teen years, he began skipping Mass and driving straight to the shore to play guitar, watch the waves and enjoy the beauty of the morning. “And it felt more spiritual than any time I set foot in a church,” he recalled.

Nothing has changed that view in the ensuing decades.

“Most religions are there to control people and get money from them,” said Dulak, now 76, of Rocheport, Missouri. He also cited sex abuse scandals in Catholic and Southern Baptist churches. “I can’t buy into that,” he said.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The older I get the more angry the concept of God makes me. It's hit the point where I hope I'm wrong, so when I die I can spit in his face and call Him a useless God

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The idea that their "love" god kills, maims, allows horrendous birth defects, molestation, etc of children is one of the multiple proofs that god doesn't exist. Oh, and wasps and mosquitoes.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Wasps pollinate plants and mosquitoes are an important step in the food web. Nothing in this existence is here for no reason and "god" to is show man's own arrogance.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Non-Religion is cool if you get used to it. 91% of all Germans are "Not practising any religion". On paper some 70% still are members of religious communities but otherwise we don't give a fuck and instead going to church we meet for beer and bretzel breakfast on sunday. We stopped being religious after two World Wars as God was never on our side. Now we ain't on his side either. Never been more happy.

Funny thing, officially Religion is part of school. But from what I remember it was more a history lesson. I remember every jewish and muslim holiday but not a single Christian Martyrer. Yes, around half of religious lessons at school was about other religions. Most likely because of selective memory - on holidays I could have beer and bretzel breakfast. Martyrers don't feed me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

misread your comment and thought you said that most people only went to church on Sundays for beer and bretzel breakfast. Was like, shit, I could get behind that religion.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Go back 50 years and that was what we did: Go to church for 30 Minutes and sing, then feast with beer, sausages and bretzels for 60 minutes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think the only thing we lose is community -- I'm jealous that religious people automatically have that.

The solution of course is trying to return to having neighborhood communities.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

They really don't. I grew up Evangelical, trust me, community was the last thing on those people's minds. Granted, I understand where you're coming from; there should be more communal spaces that don't have religion as a requirement.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm telling you from experience that their "community" is fake. The people are fake. Under the fake stuff that looks nice on the outside is a deep culture of judgment and shame and fear. It's not any community I would ever want. Like family get together for family's that hate each other but they fake it.

To those who will try to tell me "well not ME or MY church." I don't care and I don't believe you. I have been harmed too much too consistently by these groups.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Under the fake stuff that looks nice on the outside is a deep culture of judgment and shame and fear.

Funny, that's what Christianity seems to be mostly about anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Not really. Only God has a right to judge us.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

“Never do business with a religious son-of-a-bitch. His word ain't worth a shit -- not with the Good Lord telling him how to fuck you on the deal.”

― William S. Burroughs

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've heard about the "rise of the nones" for fucking years now. I'm in my mid 30s. When the fuck will this trend translate into policy reform

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

When the all 80+ year olds in congress ~~retire~~ die out

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm curious what the overlap between the growing number of atheists and regular users of Lemmy, because I'm not sure if the comments on this article being so one sided towards atheism is a product of Lemmy users being primarily atheists or if religious people don't feel comfortable sharing an opposing view. I'd love to hear a counter perspective, but as an atheist myself I'm not the person to start that conversation. I will say that society functions most properly when the majority of people hold similar views about most issues, when the Overton window is smaller, and religion historically has been a reliable tool for aligning people in that sense. It seems more challenging to me to be a kid these days, in the sense that kids are presented with so many choices for "good" that it seems harder to choose values. I'm not a fan of religion, but it's worth calling out that moving away from organized religion en masse does come with some societal costs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm Christian and usually stay out of these discussions because it's a waste of time to try to change anybody's mind here, and anything I say sounds like "not all Christians" anyway. I can do without the hate and contempt in my inbox.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Hey, if it makes you happy and you don't swing it around in front of my face: you have my blessing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Even religious groups hate organized religion. They just make an exception for the one they happen to be part of.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Religion ruins everything.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Besides architecture. Cathedrals are dope. But everything else, yeah.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't hate some older religious music.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

That first Enigma record is a regular in my listening because of exactly that.