This is going to HELP because Trump's Government is KNOWN to Follow Judge's Orders!
this post was submitted on 04 Jun 2025
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Judges need to start holding people in contempt and locking them up till Kilmar Abrego Garcia is back in the US. Then the agents and their supervisors need to be charged with kidnapping and wrongful imprisonment.
That would be a possible outcome but the fun one is the judges ability to prevent the normal withholding of evidence that isn't directly requested. Instead the judge can say I (we both counsel and the judge) need to see everything and you can't say no, anything but provided can be held directly against you and anything that should exist that doesn't can be held as spoliated.
It's a public docket so that would be fairly disastrous for every ice or hsi arrest.
And what happens when they still say no?
They need to actually be sent to jail to fear being sent.
While they absolutely at least should be seen trying. Unfortunately this criminal administration will just pardon them. Until the legislative branch decides to do absolutely anything, expect nothing.
Pardons apply to criminal contempt but not civil contempt. What could happen is that the executive branch could refuse to carry out the contempt order. If that happens, it’s basically game over.
Fair enough. But yeah, if they're expecting the administration to hold itself responsible. Heh shits fucked.
But that would set a precedent that people in power can have consequences to their actions!
Yes. So LET'S FUCKING SEE IT!
These courts exist to serve capital; not the people. That's why you don't see shit.
this poor guy is going to wind up dead or missing to make the headache go away for trump's benefit
How is he not already dead? Do we have any confirmation?
US Senator Van Hallen (from Maryland) flew down to El Salvador managed to see him after applying a bunch of pressure in mid April. So he was at least alive then. Photos were published and such of said meeting
Other dems from congress have flow down besides Van Hallen, but haven't been able to get a visit. They've also had a ton less media attention, so there was less pressure on El Salvador to let them visit him. For instance, Glenn Ivey traveled to El Salvador and tried to visit a week ago but I doubt most people here probably heard about that
Well I've definitely heard of Van Halen but I thought they broke up
Yes. He was briefly released for an interview with a democratic senator who visited. This was weeks ago, though.
I've seen nothing recent showing him.
Make sure to get back to us all here as soon as you discover any relevant information!
He gets most attention, but apparently 90% off then didn't even have any conviction and even those who did maybe should be deported to their home country not to a gulag.
And no matter how much they say they are guilty, all deserve a due process. In a democratic country you can't just let someone decide who gets it and who doesn't.
Fuck this administration.
A reasonable president wouldn't have sent him in the first place. A reasonable president would be asking for him back, offering favorable diplomatic terms.
If refused, as Trump has claimed, a reasonable president would be parking a carrier group off the coast of Acajutia, and having F/A-18s doing nightly, low-altitude, glass-breaking, supersonic passes over Casa Presidencial.
They're not being held against the US government's will, we're paying these countries to house these people. We could just request them back at any time. No military needed. These people are there because we purposely sent them there to forget about them.