You need to get a wolf statue to put in his garden so that can become the locus of his night terrors, be sure to put a speaker in the wolf statue so you can make it talk to him, then claim that you (as the wolf, naturally) are God, and you have granted him the power to walk through walls
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I'm really sorry this is happening it's fucking rough. I'd refer him to social services as well, he needs MH treatment but won't do it himself. He may be bad enough for them to section him IDK.
He's also likely with your local doctors I'd ring them too.
Somehow I read it as your brother having schizophrenia and got really confused.
Continue to involve authorities, but u fortunately mental health funding keeps getting slashed. There may be a social worker centre you could reach out to for more information.
If calling the police gave you 8 months the first time, I'd say calling them again is a logical step. It clearly had an effect last time.
Second this. Keep calling. 8 months at a time... With 84 years it's not that many times isn't it?
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The correct approach would be to keep calling the police/making a complaint every time it happens, build up evidence etc. perhaps speak with someone with legal knowledge. Complain to local authorities.
Or fight back, the way I imagine doing it is to get a huge amp pressed against his wall and blast death metal for all hours he's trying to sleep.
Also glitter bombs/dog poop/piss disks through his door until he gets the message.
Pay someone to steal his speakers.
Don't pay someone to steal something. The police will treat conspiracy to commit theft much more harshly than blasting music.
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Start going out in the garden at night and making wolf noises. This sounds like an untreated mental health issue. If no one (council, cops, ambulance) is going to respond to the current levels, try to increase them. Consider calling in a welfare check rather than a noise complaint.
Shit advice.
Escalating the situation will not improve it.
Ok the only people that can help you are the council, noise complaints are the responsibility your local council unfortunately, given the cuts that have happened over the years this means that they are underfunded. What you need to do is get the local noise complaints number and call it every single time it happens. This is what is called a statutory noise complaint. Just Google it. At the same time you need to start a noise complaint diary,
the columns are date, start time, end time, severity*, weather, and details.
Severity is on a scale of 0 to 4, with 0 been nothing and 4 been OMFG argh. Details need to include what type of noise it is and most importantly how it affects you. Headache? Lack of sleep, emotional distress? Got to town however remember that this is going to be a legal document that could get used in court eventually. Also important is to do it daily even if there is no noise. Include if you are away on holiday etc if it regularly happens on a weekend etc. The council should send you this info after the first couple of incidents
Now for the nighttime banging on the walls and screaming, if it just randomly starts in the middle of the night that sounds to me like someone is or could be having domestic abuse. I apologise in advance if this upsets people. You should contact the police and let the know that.
If any of your neighbours are affected try to get the in on it as well, it's much more effective with multiple people.
Eventually you will be asked to place a "noise recording device" in the room that is most affected, at this point you know something is finally going to be done about, eventually...
If you have any remote possibility of moving house in the next year or so don't go down this route as i believe that you have to declare it to the next house buyer
The problem we have in the UK is that most of the laws, procedures and police are built around people not wanting to be complete knobheads. Unfortunately the people have realised this and also realised there are no consequences for their actions
Keep a log of every time he does this. Also log every time you call police/council and include dates of all this when you next call.
It's a good idea to send complaints by email too as there is a paper trail.
When you call the police/council log the time of the call and the name of the person you speak to and mention this in future calls, "I spoke to Josh 4 days ago and he advised....”
I believe the council still provides a noise meter to record loud prolonged noises.
Any time he is in your garden brandishing anything then call the police and advise them that he is on your property with a weapon.
Exactly this. A detailed log and evidence is important.
Also, talk to your other neighbours and see if they have, or would report it.
As it is, resident B has 2 noise complaints in 8 months from resident A. Without evidence of all the rest of it, this fits all sorts of scenarios. People make malicious complaints all the time and the authorities (rightfully) shouldn't just take your word for it that there's a long history.
Always have receipts
Get like eight to ten shitty things delivered to his house every day. Either something he’ll have to pay for like a pizza, or something just completely useless, like a cheap spare part for something he doesn’t have.
Obviously, use his name and don’t use your real phone number. He'll have to deal with all the trash constantly.
Won’t really solve your issue, but it’s good revenge for him being an asshole.
Oh and sign him up for all the flyers and coupon books you can. Just like a torrent of junk every single day, never ending.
The answer is contained in your post. You called the cops once, and it stopped for 8 months. You called them again and it has stopped (or just the siren?).
Call the cops. It's working, and you owe him no more courtesy.
When the niece visits again, let her know what's been going on. Maybe she can get him into a long term care facility.
The siren has been absent since last Friday night we called the cops. He wasn't playing the siren every night before (referring to this episode of him starting up again 2 weeks ago) so we're not sure if it partially worked or not, either way we're recording everything so it's all documented, and from the answers I got in this thread, we'll be calling the cops every time he does this and getting in touch with the council too. We'll try and catch his niece when she comes over next too
Record a video of it with a decibel meter (not an app, like an actual separate device) pointing at the direction of the audio source. Works best if there's like a apartment clock in view to prove the time.
Having dealt with similar situations before, that definitely sounds like schizophrenia. Unfortunately, short of just moving, there won't be much that you can do directly, as ultimately getting any real solution for anybody involved is going to require professional intervention. You very likely won't be able to convince him out of whatever incorrect beliefs he's dug his heels into.
I would try seeing if he has any family you could reach out to. It's likely not safe for him to be living alone anymore, and he needs somebody to help care for him. If not family, it may be worth putting in a call to whatever social services you have in your area.
Mental disorders like this generally don't get better on their own. Especially not at his age. He needs help before he hurts himself or somebody else.
Exactly my thought. I had a next door neighbor develop schizophrenia, accuse my roommate and I of talking to him through the electrical sockets, and eventually attack us outside our door. He was taken away.
I don't know the laws or systems in place in the UK for this, but I work in 911 dispatch in the US, and I can't imagine that something like this is too radically different across the pond
As long as the cops in your area are fairly responsive (I know a couple departments in my county will take their sweet-ass time responding to a noise complaints) call every time he does something.
Yes, you're going to get sick of it, but more importantly the cops are going to get sick of it too. They really don't want to be out at your neighbors house over this every day/week/month/8moths, or however often he does it. Before too long he's going to get hit with fines and other consequences. Once or twice they might issue a warning
Speak to the officers every time. Make sure they're seeing and hearing what you're seeing and hearing, get it on video if you have to, don't give them an opportunity to write it off because they drove by the house and "didn't hear anything."
Tell them he's schizophrenic, refusing to take his meds, tell them he's harassing you, that last part is important, tell them you want to file a report for harassment, discuss what your options are- pressing changes, restraining orders, whatever they may be, and pursue them. You'll probably have paperwork and court dates and such, it sucks, but that's how the process works.
Be prepared for retaliation from him in some form. Get security cameras, try to avoid any contact with him if you can avoid it. He already has delusions that you're conspiring against him, and having the cops show up at his door repeatedly are going to feed right into that, it's not out of the question that he might get violent, or start vandalizing your property.
Continue to report anything he says and does to you, no matter how small, each incident you document builds a stronger case for more consequences. Every time he accuses your brother of making wolf noises, or hacking his phone, any weird interaction at all, make sure you're documenting it with the police.
Try to catch his niece when she's over, explain the situation, explain that you're going to have to take legal action if it doesn't stop, see if she can possibly talk sense into him, or possibly if she or other family might be able to pursue some sort of involuntary commitment for him (read up on your local laws about that, I have no idea what they're like in the UK except that I think it's called "sectioning" over there, I suspect that you wouldn't be able to start that process, it would probably need to be done by a relative, the police, or a medical/mental health professional)
Totally agree on the harassment angle. That's where you'll get the police to listen. Had to take a similar approach with a paranoid schizophrenic neighbour who equally did not take his meds. The harassment angle allowed them to involve other agencies such as mental health and care workers to improve his situation, and in turn, ours.
Thanks for the detailed advice! I appreciate it a ton. We'll keep calling them every time he does this. I've got the radio/TV blasting and the siren/screaming recorded. He is a frail old man, he's almost in an L shape. He did once go out into his garden shouting for my brother (my mum heard it and said it was mostly incomprehensible) with a frying pan in his hand. That was over a year ago. When he yells and screams after playing the siren we can't make out what he's saying. We already have a doorbell camera so if he comes to the door we'll receive a notification about it and it'll be recorded.
My mum has all his texts he sent her accusing my brother saved. These texts go years back so it's all documented. When his niece comes over again we'll see if we can talk to her. She did hide his siren before but she says he'll probably end up ordering a new one from Amazon which is what seems to have happened here.
In the UK it is called sectioning. I'm not sure what the specific criteria are besides causing harm to others or ones self, I'll have to research it more in the meantime. Once again I really appreciate the advice, we've all been so stressed out lately and something has to be done because we're not putting up with this every day for months or even years
And I do want to just reiterate that the harassment angle is really what you want to play up with the police.
I don't know the specifics of how policing and such works in your area, but there's a pretty big difference between "my neighborhood is an inconsiderate jerk who plays his music too loud" and "my neighbor is intentionally targeting me with loud music and sirens to disturb our sleep"
The first one is a noise complaint, that's low priority for the police and depending on where you are maybe not even a police issue but something like code enforcement.
The second one is a police issue, it's harassment. This will vary from one jurisdiction to another, but where I work depending on some of the details I might enter that as "suspicious activity" or even a "disturbance" (basically a fight) which should get police there with some urgency.
And some of the other things you've said, like him walking around outside with a frying pan, I could definitely make an argument for putting in those calls as a "wellbeing check" or "suspicious person," and if he's acting particularly threatening maybe even "armed subject," or possibly as a psych emergency to also send EMS to hopefully get him taken to a hospital for a psych eval.
I'm surprised the police actually came out at all, they usually don't give a fuck.
As someone else said you need to go to the council, they will have a department specifically for noise complaints and anti social shit like this. You will probably need to fill out a form online and then they have officers for this specific problem who will call you and probably come out to visit. They will be your best recourse to finding a solution to this.
I'm an American so I don't understand why you haven't just put a couple 30 round mags through the wall with your AR-15?
Phone the police again, phone the council and make a noise complaint, then phone citizens advice bureau for free advice on where you stand. If he is a tenant complain to the landlord as well. Very sorry to hear all this and hope your Mum is ok because #fuckcancer
Thank you. Will do. I was worried the police won't do anything because it's not blasting at night. I'll give them a call! Mum's doing the best she can and I'm doing my best to take care of her
Most jurisdictions, including councils and their relevant bylaws, prohibit any type of nuisance behaviour. It matters not if the nuisance manifests during day time or not. What matters in context of noise is frequency, duration, volume, intensity, droning and pitch. You, as property owner or tenant, have a right to the peaceful enjoyment of your property.
The council’s environmental health officer is typically the appropriate POC for these matters. They may ask you to provide a journal of events (you can write this retrospectively if this is a regular occurrence), and/or they may choose to attend themselves to verify during times in question or if you advise them as such.
Out of council hours, they usually ask for the police to be called so there’s a record/independent witness. There is nothing stopping you from calling the police during daytime.
The council may ask you if you’re comfortable to try and talk to the offending party to resolve the issue. Decline this vehemently and state that you fear for your safety (especially since this guy appears to be mentally ill!). Let them deal with the matter, it’s their job.
I feel bad for the bloke who’s ill, but conversely you do not need to suffer from his illness, and neither does your mum.
I wish you best of luck.
If all else fails phone the local newspaper and contact your mp, good luck
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I've had success imagining the reaction a bully is looking for, or expecting; Then giving them a reaction that confounds whatever they had in mind. Don't play their game. Make a new game for you to play. One they won't understand.
My first thought in this case, is to stop by and give him a list of requests you'd like him to play the next morning. If he immediately refuses, just ignore what he says and thank him, because his sound system is way better than yours. That interaction will confuse the hell out of him. He might just stop. If he does or not, go back the next day and ask why he didn't play your request list. If he did play your list, go back and thank him. Then give him another list of music from someone else in your family.
That's just off the top of my head, maybe you can come up with something better. Just remember to make it your game, not his.
Yeah, I ain't got the energy for this.
Have you talked to the Council? They normally have officers who sort shit like this out.
I mean, if cops arent doing shit, and the neighbor aren't listening to reason, you have to take matters in your own hands.
Make the same noise they did while they sleep. See how they like it.
Yeah do that if you want to get stabbed to death. The neighbor has mental health issues.
Maybe don't engage in a war of escalation with unstable people
In game theory, the best strategy is called "Tit For Tat": Be nice at first, but strike back (in equal proportion to what they did) if they refuse to cooperate.
OP already tried being nice. You can't live life being a pushover.
A society cannot be tolerant of the intolerant.
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Thus is childish and unlikely to lead to a solution.
Escalating conflict with someone with delusions of persecution is exactly the wrong thing to do.
Not knowing the system in the UK means I can't give very good specific advice. You may be able to contact a local mental health network and there is a good chance they will know him. Let them know what is going on in as much detail as possible and suggest that he is increasingly agitated and alienating himself from the community. It sounds like this gentleman needs a conpulsory treatment order or whatever the UK equivalent is.
UK equivalent is known as sectioning
Even if he does have delusions of persecution, he only has them against my brother specifically. he knows my mum also lives here and is terminally ill, and still feels like it's okay to subject the entire family to this
Blasting Baby Shark on loop 24/7 for the entire weekend while OP and his family goes away.
Good idea, will ask mum later if she feels like going away with me and my brother for a bit!
Do not respond by playing loud noises back, no matter how tempting, that'll just give him the chance to say "see, they're the ones doing it". Going away for a break might be a great idea though, just to get some rest and relax a bit. I'd suggest putting up external cameras covering the whole property, and internals covering doirs and windows first though, just in case he does anything harmful. I know you said he was frail, but you don't want to take chances.
Yeah, relocate the family, and return the favor by blasting EDM 24/7. Either they’ll stop, or they’ll burn the whole house down.