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"I wish Supergiant would get the roguelite bug out of their system and make sequels to Bastion and then Transistor finally."

Was what I typed in our group chat. The three of us are mid to late 30s with me being the oldest by 3 months.

To say it went over like a brick balloon would be an understatement. So, I wanted to see if fellow game players had thoughts on it. Am I crazy? Do you agree?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I trust them to do what they want. I hope they don't do a hades 3, at least anytime soon, but 2 flowed from 1 the same as 1 flowed from pyre. Bastion and Transistor are amazing, but I'm not even convinced either warrants a sequel. I would love more games like them though. In general I wish more indie devs started with something like those games

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Why would anyone have that strong a view about what you said...? I'm not clamouring for sequels particularly for those games, though I'd love more games like them. Then again, whatever gets me more beautiful soundtracks from Darren Korb.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Because that first sentence sounds like a diss on Hades.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I never finished bastion but I really liked it. I should replay it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

You really should.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I agree, but mostly because I dislike roguelikes. They get too repetitive and turn into a slog, and the success of your runs is often entirely dependent on which items you find.

I’d much rather have a tight, concise game with handmade maps. IME, roguelikes just pull the old NES/SNES trick of “well we can’t fit more data on the game cart, so just make the game harder to force players to replay it over and over again. That will artificially inflate the game length.”

Bastion and Transistor don’t need sequels, but I do wish they’d stop with the roguelikes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Thats really not what roguelikes are. They wouldnt be one of the most popular genres ever if the base was laziness. Its more like being able to focus fully on the mechaincs/gameplay instead of spending countless hours designing worlds that either end up feeling repetitive anyway or you need to spend another few chunks of countless hours to make it feel good.

Besides, Hades is by faaaaaar their most successful game, it would be objectively stupid not to keep going with that at least for a while.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

I dislike roguelikes and soulslikes. It feels like that cuts out the vast majority of indie games being made nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

As a long time SGG fan i agree. Personally im sad we're getting a hades 2.

Bastion and Transistor absolutely don't need sequels though

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I have the exact same take, and the exact same experience with my friend group. I love supergiant games. Anything they touch is solid gold imo. I've always said that Hades is an amazing game, it's just supergiant's worst game.

Personally, I think for me, it comes down to the setting. Bastion, Transistor and Pyre all had amazing, unique settings that made me as a player want to learn and explore everything I could. And again, Hades does an amazing job of painting the setting and fleshing out the characters, but it's kinda just Greek mythology, which has been done before and I personally find it less interesting.

To restate, Hades is an amazing game, just imo it's supergiants worst game.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wouldn’t pyre be the worst by sales numbers? I think your bias against roguelike’s is showing here.

Hades is massively popular and well liked by a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

I love roguelikes, probably one of my favorite genres, so much so that I started playing rogue for a while to see what the OG was like.

And by sales numbers, 100% Pyre would be their worst game, but I'm far past judging a games content by its sales at this point.

And it's easy to see why Hades is loved by so many, it's a great game! Just definitely my least favorite of all of Supergiant's stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

IIRC they (or at least their design lead) explicitly stated that since the founders were Diablo fans, something like Hades was basically their dream.(And imo you can already see some of that in Bastion and Transistor so I don't think it was PR talk) So it's not surprising they'd go for a sequel given how well it was received. But I'm sure they'll stop soon enough, they don't seem to be the kind of studio that is in it for the money and I'm sure Hades and Hades 2 are giving them more than enough money to take creative risks in the future.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What I want Supergiant to do is.... whatever the fuck they want.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I say let them cook. Their "worst" game is Pyre (iirc it really didn't sell well) and it's still a very good game.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

I really wanted to like it more because they made some really cool choices in the design of it. I can see why it didn't sell well, but it should have at least been more influential

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

Hades did straight numbers, not a shocker they'd go for another. Couldn't see Transistor or Bastion getting sequels, (Or Pyre but... lol Pyre.) and more importantly, I'd rather they tell new stories.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 days ago

Roguelite/likes are shit. Add cards to it and I'd prefer to kill myself. If I want to play RL I play adom.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I didn't move Bastion or Transistor, they never clicked for me but I loved Hades.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Be careful what you wish for, they could start making Vampire Survivor likes!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Maybe they should, the genre has potential, just look at Deep Rock Survivor

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

To be honest, I think they only made a sequel to Hades because it was so popular. I actually quite like that they create new universes every game. I also like the core gameplay of Pyre (not so much the mini-games) unlike most people. It sort of feels like Ballmasterz turned into a super cereal game to me. It probably inspired the show, which ever came first.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I watched this video a while back. Apparently, they were looking to develop a universe that they could make a sequel in. They ended up with Hades.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I sadly have little interest in watching things about Hades as because I am so burnt out from asking for accessibility assistance (I actually think I did it multiple times in case they didn't catch it) and I am just frustrated with them as a whole and this post reignited it. But I am glad that they got what they wanted because Greek mythology is expansive. I think someone else will be happy about it. I just think I realized I feel relatively "done" with the company as a whole =/!

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