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I'm what's known as a chronic hopper. I'm always on the lookout for new software, especially when it comes to browsers and Linux distros, but I'm here to ask you about browsers specifically. I'm fairly sure I know most of them, but I want to really know why you run what you do. In return, I will give you my experiences with the browsers that I have tried and why I hopped from them if I did.

Don't feel the need to read the list. I'll be more than happy to just hear your answers!

  • Firefox: One of the grand-daddy browsers. I honestly didn't hop from it due to anything specific, but more that I've used it so much that I needed a change.
  • Chrome: I used this very little. Just being on it made my skin crawl. However, I still keep it around in a container because some sites straight up tell you that you have to use it to access their dashboards or application forms. While that is now much less these days (as most things will now ask for Chrome or Firefox now), it still does happen, especially on dated government sites that get updated like... once a decade...
  • Opera GX: Yup, I fell into the hype. I think I used this for all of a month before recognizing it as over-engineered and needlessly bloated. It pulls you in with gimmicks and pretty lights and that's pretty much all it has. A browser that's literally built on smoke and mirrors and pushy advertising.
  • Brave: There's been a lot of huff about Brave lately, but back when it launched and wasn't very mainstream it was the smoothest and a relatively more secure browser than the competition. There was a time when nearly everyone ran Brave. The problem started when they began to opt you into gimmicks and extra things you didn't need without your permission. That was a turnoff for me. I outed before things really went downhill. -Floorp: A random find from exploring Linux for the first time. I was running Pop!_OS and found it on the store. I've never experienced such a smooth Firefox fork before. It really is barebones, but has a lot of customization built in. Instead of the custom options piling on one another, most of them change how it works on a foundational level. The style of your UI and tabs, side tabs, fading URL bar buttons, and a lot more. At it's core, Floorp is a stripped down and security first FF fork developed in Japan. I took the time to translate the TOS pages, and most of it is promising that there is no data collection. It's fairly vetted and trusted from what I've researched.
  • Vivaldi: Still one of my favorite browsers when I went back to Windows, but probably has the most bugs I've seen in any browser. It got better once they swapped to React portals, but Vivaldi (Windows version) would occasionally freeze my whole PC or else I'd BSOD. This was a combination of the browser's stability and making my own custom CSS for it, but overall it frustrated me more than other browsers.
  • Qutebrowser: Still one of my favorites, and a must-have for me even if its not my main browser. I was diving into the Vimium extension for Firefox, which in turn led me to Neovim, which led me to Qutebrowser. There's a few main points as to why I don't use it as my go-to. First, its not very good at squashing first-party ads. Even though you can combo custom ad block lists, Brave adblock, and python-adblock, it just can't seem to get them all. Second, I rely on my history when browsing YouTube and if you want to get around ads, your best bet is to write a custom shortcut that opens links in MPV/VLC. There are Greasemonkey scripts that should increase ad speed to a fraction of a second and auto-skip, but none of them ever worked for me and most are ancient.
  • Nyxt: My next logical step after Qutebrowser was Nyxt. However, I've never managed to figure out how to work it. I haven't really done any extensive bug testing, but when it opens its just a blank window and there's not much I could find for documentation on it. Part of me wonders if there's something that only trusted people know that gets it working, the other part wonders if I'm just missing some sort of library or dependency. From here I went back to Floorp for a while. -Zen: I was very excited when I found this browser. Another Firefox fork, it aims to be much like Arc browser, but adds a lot more on top of that. However, in recent months I find they've become a little too ambitious. If you asked me two months ago, I would tell you that Zen felt just as smooth as Floorp, but these days its much, much laggier. The scrolling is choppy, the pages load slow. I use the same exact extensions on Zen as I do Floorp and the difference now is night and day. I've also tested this on fresh, no-extras no-extension installations and the results are the same. Zen tends to change things and instead of letting the user opt into the additions or changes, they force the changes in their updates. That type of development model just isn't really for me. I don't want to have to re-figure out how to use my browser every few days.

So there it is. I hop a LOT. Honorable mention is Ladybird and I've tested it a little. It is extremely alpha, being just a portal with the basics you need for browsing, but I'm amazed at what they've done so far and very excited for it's release. For now I've returned to Floorp and am very happy with it. I'm very curious to know why you like what you do, whether its just because its what you've used for a long time or if there's something that you can't do without.

Also, please excuse me if this question has been asked before. I didn't want to necro an old post and I want to be able to reply and ask more questions! I've seen many posts discussing a single browser, but I want a more general view. I'm very interested, because the Lemmy community often values their privacy and their rights, which is a major factor in choosing software for me.

Edit: I feel like I'm answering very quickly, but want you to know that I'm not a bot nor using AI. I type at 110wpm in Dvorak. Typing is a huge hobby of mine and would never use AI to do something I love to do for me. I'm set on getting to 200wpm (100 was my first goal). That being said, I can't answer everyone, so I'm sorry if I missed your reply!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

It took a long time to switch to Firefox, but it is now my main browser. I mean I really liked the Mozilla suite and Firefox just didn't seem ready for awhile, but eventually I made the move.

Firefox ever since.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Brave. It blocks all the ads and syncs with my phone. That's all I want. I like using Librewolf more (with uBlock Origin) but it doesnt sync with my phone so I can't really use it as a daily driver

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's many options for browsers that can sync with your phone. I used to love Brave until all the shifty moves they pulled. Installing paid propietary software without consent, switching the telemetry on without saying anything and claiming it was an accident...

And their ad block is like a leaking sieve compared to uBO/Ad-Nauseum. Not to mention useless when they've been known to put ads on the homescreen and in the browser itself. Then underneath all that you have Google lurking in the shadows, ready to take your data and sell you advertisements tailored to your interests.

I had had enough of both Brave and Reddit when my umpteenth Brave search was being advertised to me on Reddit.

Librewolf might not sync due to how pure and barebones it is, but you could check out Zen or Floorp or Firedragon. Any FF fork that lets you login with a Mozilla account will work. I never sync, myself, but from what I've seen you should be able to.

I do like the Brave browser itself, so I get it. But even plain old Firefox might be the lesser of two evils here. Just search up "brave browser drama" and check things out. It gets kind of nasty. The devs are not the most trustworthy people...

Sorry if this sounded pushy. I'm not trying to be. I got burned with Brave and it still stings a bit, lol.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Firefox. I've stuck with it for what, a decade now? I used Chrome before.

I use it simply because it's not Chromium and works. There's Firefox forks but they don't offer enough to pull me from Firefox. Yet.

On iOS/iPad I generally stick with Safari because of how non-native browsers were forced to be just skins. But I bounce between phones and ecosystems and I've been off Apple for more than a year.

If something needs Chromium to work (very rare), I open Vivaldi.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I stuck with it for a long time, too. Hell, I remember when it came out. Forks are fun and, if it's a concern for you, more secure. I didn't really need anything more secure, but I like to dabble into different stuff to keep things fresh and interesting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I switched to Firefox from Chrome back when they were branding it as Firefox Quantum and honestly I have been happy with it. It has been just as fast as Chrome if not faster, it might use more memory but unused memory means your computer could be caching more.

I don't love the stuff Mozilla has been doing recently but it's not enough to make me switch. I think the brand redesign in 2024 was pretty horrible, moz://a was genius design compared to the P thing they have now. I think they have also been chasing AI stuff recently. Mozilla has done some pretty cool things in the past though like Rust, Servo and Fluent.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Firefox. Because using even a slightly sketchy browser for shit like banking logins is insane.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Over the last two and half years (since I quit Windows and Vivaldi and went FLOSS only), bouncing around between Firefox, Floorp, Zen, Firedragon and Falkon as my principal browser, while also checking out Pale Moon, Servo, Dillo, Netsurf, Agregore, Kristall. Also "special purpose browsers" like Station, Ferdium and FreeTube. (Is FreeTube a browser? I think it's an Electron app, which is basically a Blink/Chromium browser, used to browse just one website in this case.)

Currently on my laptop:

  • Fully-loaded Zen (multiple extensions and a couple of Zen mods) as my main browser
  • Fairly minimal Firefox (just uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger) for streaming music (e.g Spotify without ads)
  • Ferdium for email and IM
  • FreeTube for YouTube (LibRedirect extension in Zen sends YT links to FreeTube automatically)
  • Ungoogled Chromium as a backup in case some site just won't work with a non-Blink browser. Haven't used it in months.
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Firefox because ad block even though I run pi hole

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Firefox, since its an overall good browser. Added a custom user-script to it.

Vivaldi, for anything Google specific since its chromium base. Also in case something breaks in Firefox.

Like to keep my activities seperate. This is only for desktop.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I agree. I also like to separate all of my activities. Not just for privacy, but also for organization. Sometimes I overdo it... I have ton of unused apps and programs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

On laptop:

  • Primary LibreWolf, as it does everything I need, and I don't 100% trust Mozilla anymore after recent incidents so I wanted a non-Mozilla fork of Firefox
  • Secondary Chromium, when something refuses to run on Firefox and derivatives

On phone:

  • Primary FOSS Browser, I think it might be some guy's passion project... It works so yeah
  • Secondary Vanadium, basically GrapheneOS' in-house Chromium fork. For when the primary browser doesn't do the job, which happens more often because I have FOSS Browser set on blocking all JavaScript...
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I've tried a few of the FOSS branded apps on F-Droid from the same dev, I believe. I like FOSS Calendar. It's just simple and does what I need. I don't need syncing or anything fancy.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Firefox, used to switch to edge to get hevc HDR to work from my jellyfin server. But now Firefox will pass it through AV1. So it my only browser now

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Ironfox here, through Tor and ProtonVPN.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Including browser names in bold.

My strong preference is toward Pale Moon, but I have been using it less and less lately. Instead when I want to use a more standards-compliant (i.e non-Blink) rendering engine, I use SeaMonkey, which includes a browser, an email/newsgroup/RSS client, and an IRC client.

Lately though, I flip between Firefox, Waterfox, Librewolf, and Tor Browser - they're all just "Firefox, and this thing that could be an addon if addons still worked right". I truly despise the fact that they moved to Google WebExtensions, and have so many other Google shackles - so I'm glad that they're losing the money.

Oh, I also use Links in my terminal. It's a good alternative to curl.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I gotta check out some TUI browsers someday, I like the idea of being able to browse through my terminal. I've never heard of Pale Moon! I'm excited now and will be going to check it out ASAP.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

LibreWolf, because Mozilla makes bad decisions.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

No one mentioned Floorp yet, so I guess it's on me.

It's Firefox, but with more customization options right out of the box. I also have an ungoogled Chromium on standby for those sites unwilling to work well with Firefox (and forks).


EDIT:

Oh, it's mentioned in the OP:

  • Floorp: A random find from exploring Linux for the first time. I was running Pop!_OS and found it on the store. I’ve never experienced such a smooth Firefox fork before. It really is barebones, but has a lot of customization built in. Instead of the custom options piling on one another, most of them change how it works on a foundational level. The style of your UI and tabs, side tabs, fading URL bar buttons, and a lot more. At it’s core, Floorp is a stripped down and security first FF fork developed in Japan. I took the time to translate the TOS pages, and most of it is promising that there is no data collection. It’s fairly vetted and trusted from what I’ve researched.
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I tried a bunch of Fireforks, and found bugs I couldn't live with in all of them - until I tried Floorp. It was last on my list because the name and icon are ugly so I assumed it wouldn't have as much polish as something like Waterfox. Turns out it's got sensible defaults and works very well, with better performance than vanilla Firefox, so I'm happy.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, Floorp is my go-to right now. Its incredibly lightweight and has a lot of customization for how smooth it is. I am liking Librewolf though, just from how completely stripped down it is. There's barely anything unneeded in the options, its crazy. I think I'll still mainly use Floorp, though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Same with Floorp. Was using Zen for a short time but the ui was buggy as shit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Zen is still buggy, unfortunately. It was great when it was hot off the press, but they slowly pushed UI changes. They'd give you options to roll back the changes, but I would have preferred if they made the changes and gave you the option to opt into them.

I checked it out again the other day, and the newest update caused compact mode to disable every time I restarted the browser. Now I just use Floorp with in-line tabs activated. I love having one hybrid URL and tab bar, but I've never been a 100 tabs kind of guy so I have the room. I don't save my previous tab sessions.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Waterfox because of the UI customizations and built-in vertical tree-style sidebar without needing to fiddle with userchrome.css everytime, as well as automatic Betterfox (Firefox config for speed and privacy) and the settings ToC

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I almost forgot about Waterfox, which is strange because it was one of the first if not the first Firefox fork, if I'm remembering right.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You listed Chrome 4 times.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Lol, yes I did. I only dropped Chrome completely when they dropped adblock support. Curiosity would always get me and I'd try Chrome-based browsers against my better judgement.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Vivaldi as my main browser and Librewolf as my second. I love the tab management and workspaces on Vivaldi, there’s nothing else like it that I’ve found. I use librewolf for all my docker local host needs. I actually really quite like it and would probably switch over but the workspace/tab thing keeps me on Vivaldi.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The closest thing I've found to Vivaldi tab management without installing a bunch of custom CSS and extensions is Zen Browser. Zen would be my favorite browser if it was a little lighter, but it's worth checking out if you like Vivaldi, imo.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I use Firefox and Librewolf.

I've used Firefox for a long tine, and I strongly favour it as the only true independent browser engine left. Everything else is under Google or Apples control, and many of the various chrome forks are commercial and compromised. I dont trust Brave or Vivaldi in terms of privacy. And google has severely limited privacy options in chromium based browsers with its recent changes.

Mozilla is far from perfect and I'm disturbed by some of its actions but it remains the least bad option. Librewolf adds a layer of privacy and separation that I like although its not my main browser. I main Firefox with lots of privacy extensions.

I do have chromiun and chromium ungoogled installed and exclusively for streaming video. Not because Firefox isn't capable but because I have loads of extensions in Firefox so its easier just to contain all my subscribed streaming services in its own browser and not have to faff with DRM or ad block issues. I watch YouTube in Firefox, but use Chromium to watch BBC, Channel 4, and Netflix (when I had it). I use Jellyfin media player to stream my own content.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've been meaning to check out Jellyfin. I've been dabbling in Stremio lately and did look into Kodi for a bit. I think Plex is now pulling some shady business? So my next stop is Jellyfin.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I think there was just a post on Lemmy (maybe !SelfHosted) saying that Plex have just changed their terms to allow them to sell users' data to third parties.

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